10th-Graders Charged after Fight at C. Milton Wright
Two teens were charged Thursday after a fight at C. Milton Wright High School in Bel Air.
Two C. Milton Wright High School students face charges in connection with a fight at the school Thursday, and police say an increased police presence at the school that day was a coincidence.
Two 10th-grade students were involved in a fight in the school's hallway Thursday, according to Lt. Carl Brooks, spokesman for the Harford County Sheriff's Office.
Brooks described the incident as minor and said both students were charged with second-degree assault.
"Appropriate disciplinary action has been taken against the students involved," Teri Kranefeld, manager of communication for the school system, wrote in an email to Patch Friday.
Rumors have been flying in the community about the events at the school Thursday. Patch readers posed questions and stated what they've heard through social media and email.
"Rumors spread by the use of student cell phones are complicating and perpetuating the issue," Kranefeld said in her email. "Cell phones are not to be used during the school day."
While there were more deputies at the school Thursday, Brooks explained the added police presence was not a result of violence at the school.
Rather, school resource officers from around the county were meeting at C. Milton Wright Thursday to work on a project, Brooks said.
“They may have assigned another deputy to the school today," Brooks said Friday, adding, “There’s no information we’ve received that there will be any disturbance there today.”
Kranefeld said the school resource officer and the school system's coordinator of safety and security have been at the school to aid the administration.
"Fighting on school property is a serious offense and one that is not taken lightly. School administrators work proactively to avoid conflicts between students," Kranefeld wrote.
"However, the school administration rely on parents as well to partner with them in this effort by discussing with their children the severity and consequences of such behavior in school."
GeoffC
12:24 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
How can they say they have not heard of any disturbances supposed to happen today when our kids are coming home saying they are scared there will be a huge fight today (Friday)!!!! These types of rumors must be taken seriously or they will have another Columbine situation on their hands. Again who is runnign the instituiton?
Karen
12:34 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I have 2 children that attend C Milton. Every single day for at least the last 2 weeks, they have come home and told me about a fight that happened that day. It is disturbing.
Annie
12:39 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
There were 7 fights in the school this week. Parents have been calling the school and the Board all week. Why is this story a cover up?????
jessica
12:56 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
completely agree...why did it take so long to get any info out to parents....
Kelly
1:04 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
This week alone my child has said there were 6 or 7 fights in the school. I have tried contacting the school all day today and have gotten a busy signal. We as parents, like to think that when our child is attending school that they will be safe. Why is it that only this incident warranted a robo-call? What about the other 5 or 6? These two students may have been disciplined, but what about those involved in the cases? From what I understand, CMW has the most free time in between classes. Maybe this time should be reduced in hopes to avoid these incidences?
brent
1:24 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
The students run the school not the teachers or administration. It was that way when I was there and always will be. How can you blame administration when the students out number the faculty 100 to 1.
volunteer mom
1:49 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
This article sounds like the fight was no big deal!! I heard the fight involved a knife and stabbing! If they are trying to sugar coat this...they are just dumb! Parents need to know the truth in any case so they talk to their kids and make them aware of what is going on around them!!
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
3:14 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I agree - no mention of a knife, stabbing, INJURIES!! Watch your kids Facebook page, and their friends - this is the number one topic right now, and a great deal of fear is going through the school right now. No mention of any proactive measure the school is taking to minimize/reduce the increase in violence - which is what this is!!
Jeff
2:48 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
My daughter has told me students have been postng on social media that a fight is supposed to happen on a certain day & time & crowds of students show up to watch. Yesterday apparently was another such day & the kids who were supposed to fight weren't there so 2 other kids got in a fight. The SD & school system can try to spin it however they want, but I'm sure there was no coincidence to the increased Law Enforcement presence & the planned fight. There have been multiple fights @ the school in the recent few weeks, what is CMW, HCSD & the HCPS doing to fix this problem? Because it appears they are doing nothing!
Catherine Jensen
3:02 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
@volunteer mom; there was no stabbing? i was there and saw the whole thing like get your facts straight before you start spitting out stuff you dont even know is true & scaring people.
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
3:16 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
There were a LOT of kids reporting a stabbing yesterday, so Volunteer Mom is not spitting out anything more than what she was told - as was I. If it ISN'T true, then you're seeing the depth of fear the students are feeling by the reports they're coming home with. Either way, it was violence, it may or may not have been advertised ahead of time, and it is a repetitive event taking away from the sense of security that our children are due in school.
chan
3:12 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
@kelly; that would only make things worse and increase the anger and frusturation... i attend CMW, and i think there is just something in the school lunches that is making everyone weird.
Tom Brandis
3:18 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I'm sure the school admin, HCSD and HCPS have nothing better to do with their time than to watch and wait for fights. My opinion, cell phones, PDA's and tablets should be banned during school hours. If you don't agree with that, monitor your child's usage and see what, if any, occurs during school hours. Take the thing away if they use it during school hours. Rumors add fuel to the fire, even if it starts as a small spark. I survived school without all of the technology available today, why can’t they.
I'm so tired of hearing why the school admin, teachers, HCSD or HCPS should be responsible for everything. That is taking away time from students who want to learn. Parents need to be more involved with their kids and what is going on in their everyday lives. Please don't take this out of context, I'm sure the majority of parents are involved with their kids, but, lets be honest, we can't blame everything on everyone else all the time. Sounds like some of these kids need a good swift kick in the arse.
Austin Feit
3:30 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Cell phones are taken away if they are seen out during the school day.
Tom Brandis
3:42 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Austin, I understand that, however, teachers and school admin can not monitor usage all day long, they'd have no time to do anything else. Where there's a will there's a way. The best bet is to completely ban them. Unfortunate that it has come to this, especially when there are responsible students who don't abuse using them at school.
FormerHCPSEmployee
10:15 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Tom, the administration IS responsible for this. It never should have gotten to this point. I used to teach at CMW, and while there were occasional fights like at any school, what is happening now is abnormal for any school, but CMW especially. The situation there has deteriorated over the past few years and it is the result of students hating being at the school. Give students a positive culture and these problems all but go away. Instead you have a principal who threatens to have students removed one-by-one by the police from a pep rally if she doesn't get silence. If the students *hate* being at school then these type of incidents occur. Students can take ownership of their own education and school without letting them "run the institution." When students are encouraged to be involved at a level much higher than "You have to know this for the HSA exam" then these problems disappear.
Austin Feit
3:28 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
All of the students fighting at C.Milton Wright are making fools of themselves. They fight because they think that its "cool." They aren't just making fools of their selves, but they are also giving a bad name to me and my fellow non fighting students at C. Milton Wright. These kids are ridiculous. If you suspend the students for fighting, you are just giving them something that they will enjoy, a few days off of school. If the students are charged with assault, that's not something they want. Why hasn't this been done for any of the other 9 fights...?
Grace
3:40 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
There have been a total of 7 fights all in all. Not just this one... and the security was more than 2 cops there have been a cop at every stairs and exit. The school is like a jail.
Hank Hill
3:47 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
After reading this article many questions sprung into my cranium that made me re-read this possible exaggeration of a fight between 10th graders. I asked myself; who would charge a 10th grade child with assault over a school-yard scuffle? How does one blame a brawl on cell phones? “Rumors” were mentioned twice but never elaborated on and when I checked the comments, I was greeted by information that seemed to be more useful than the contents of the article.
One person wrote; “There were 7 fights in the school this week… Why is this story a cover up?”
According to the article, the coincidentally added police presence does not prove that anyone was aware of a planned fight. One Patch-reader replied with “How can they say they have not heard of any disturbances supposed to happen today when our kids are coming home saying they are scared there will be a huge fight.”
Let us rely on the facts to set us straight; Thursday, February 2nd, two 10th graders were involved in a fight in a hallway in C. Milton Wright High School. Lt. Carl Brooks said that the incident was minor and yet both parties involved are being charged with second degree assault. Teri Kranefeld, manager of communication for the school system, was quoted saying, “Rumors spread by the use of student cell phones are complicating and perpetuating the issue.” Anonymous Patch readers hint (and I conclude) that by listening to the rumors, this fight may have been prevented in the first place
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
4:24 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
7 - 9 fights in two school weeks, these two kids are the only ones charged with assault, and there WEREN'T weapons involved? I find that very suspicious. I agree about the cell phone usage that Tom referred to, but it's a fine line in today's world of senseless violence for the sake of looking cool, like Austin mentioned, and a repeat of Columbine. Working in technology, I can tell you that the educational industry is anxious to develop emergency notification applications that could be deployed during a threat/attack/incident, potentially saving lives by locking down facilites faster and getting emergency responders onsite quicker. But part of that success would come from the students and teachers being able to report incidents in real time...
Austin - you're right - there are a great group of kids at CMW; I have two kids there myself, and none of their friends are the type that would be involved in any of this nonsense. Suspention takes the problem out of the school, and into the streets. And I agree with Tom 100% - as a parent, I cannot and will not put the onus on the school administration completely. I've been accused by my kids of being the 'meanest Mom' on the street for the rules and limitations I impose on them - GOOD! I take pride in being mean, if the result is having kids who follow the rules and stay out of trouble!!
Tracey Guilliams
5:21 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mary-more parents in to be involved in their kids lives; we might have less problems in schools and playgrounds. I had a neighbor tell me I was strict and to lighten up (in regards to my kids) I said "thanks for noticing" I take pride also being called a mean mom!
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
5:32 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Tracey - I applaud you! Believe or not, several years ago I broke up a fight between two boys in front of my house. I sent them both off, not realizing one lived on my court. Later that night, the MOTHER started yelling at ME for yelling at her kid!! I was holding my baby boy at the time, and told her when I asked them to leave, HER son said No. Apparently he left that part out. Despite that, she let out a trail of F-bombs and such...as I was walking away! I turned and said something like 'Fine example you're setting!' - which she didn't like, because she got louder! I told her next time I saw her son starting trouble, I wouldn't yell...I'd call the cops.
GeoffyJ
4:39 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
C. Milton has become a joke. I'm glad i got out right before all the dip****s came in. And of course, there are many good natures smart kids there but unfortunately for them, cmw could be on the front of "one bad egg spoils them all" poster (that's probably not the right saying). But as far as the cell phones being taken away, yeah that's great. But what you all probably don't know is that if the student is suspected of anything administration goes through their phone. Anyone have a problem with that or just me? Isn't it the parents job to invade privacy not their teacher wannabe FBI detectives? I don't really understand it all. They are school yard scuffles. I'm sure all of us have seen our fair share or even been in a few. What do you think is going to happen when you mix 3000 kids of different clicks together? It won't rain butterfly's and gum balls that's for sure
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
5:38 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
GeoffyJ - I don't know if you're in the working world now or not, but you should get used to the idea that there is no longer any privacy. If you work in a business, EVERYTHING on your PC/Laptop is property of your employer. If they issue you a cell phone, same deal. Doesn't matter what private information you have on a device - if it's owned/purchased by an employer, they have the right to search/monitor you at will. Now, taking that a step backwards into High School, I as a parent have NO problem with an administrator searching my children's cell phones, if they are confiscated. If I've done my job right, they have nothing to hide. If I've missed something, then I appreciate the second set of eyes watching over my children. I do 'spot' checks on their laptops and phones at home - unannounced, of course. Hopefully I've impressed upon them the consequences of poor judgement. As to the fighting - let's just say 'In MY day' I can't ever recall having a police officer in our school - by coincidence, by being called, and certainly not on patrol!! Today, I've seen a child escorted out of an elementary school by police! I'm not sure what the root cause is for this...I can start with Ozzy Osbourne!! nah...that's a cop-out.
GeoffyJ
4:46 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Previous comment by me is not a knock on administration or the teachers. Some of my greatest teachers have been at cmw. Boils down to the kids.
Tracey Guilliams
5:15 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
what's sad is I knew about the big fight today (Friday) and I don't even have a teen in that school. We don't want another Jonesboro, Ak or Columbine, Co here in this county or any other. The school needs to step up and take note what is going on in social media and how it affects the school and the students.
Paul T
7:40 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I would like to start out by saying that cell phones are not needed in school. If there is an emergency, the school is responsible for calling the parents. As we all know, todays phones are equipped with internet access, texting, cameras etc. Why do kids "need" this in school? Medical reasons? The school has a nurse. Kids are on facebook all the time including during class time. Maybe that is why our kids are not number 1 in the world when it comes to education. Instead of listening and paying attention in class, kids are facebooking. In todays ecnomy, with either both parents working, or a single parent just trying to get by, parents need help at school. I am by no means saying let's put this on the school administration, but rules at school need to change. Just saying you cannot take out your cell phone during class or it will be taken away is not enough. Cell phones should not be allowed in school period. Now I know some kids follow the rules and have their phones for after school before mom and dad get home in case of emergency. I understand that. But parents need to step it up and discipline there kids and not put it on the school. Todays attitude of blaming everyone else has to end. A return to being responsible for your actions needs to return. Get the cell phones out of school.
JRock
7:55 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Could it be that many kids in this county are using heroin, and many other types of drugs these days? Harford County is becoming number 1 in the state of MD for drug use. Every parent should closely monitor their kids, their friends, etc. It seems like it is easy to get mixed in with the wrong crowds and get into drugs. They should be teaching kids that only 3% of heroin users successfully quit. If the point is driven in your head that 97% of people who regularly use heroin will not be able to stop and their lives become wrecked then maybe more will refrain from trying it!!
LLP
8:49 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I am a parent of a young teenager and I think that eceryone needs to stop blaming everyone else and make the parents of these children responsible. If the child is involved and charged than the parent should be charged as well. They have raised or not raised this child to have respect for others and they should have to face the judge and punishment as well. This will force the parents to be more involved like the parents of the ones who have the respect and want to go to school learn and make a life wotrth having in the future.
Sherry Hyde
9:06 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I say....kick all their little a...s out, and let them try to find a job, they don!t know lucky they are. and cmw....always making the papers! Always some bs going on there! Thought school was about Education!, Teachers are not babysitters.
G D
7:31 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
This appears to look on the surface like your run of the mill school fight, fights in school have been happening since there were schools. I think this drama hungry society we live in now perpetuates what people want to hear. It sounds like this thing took on a life of it's own and rumors spread like wildfire. Get a grip!
jon
9:37 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
It's been 20 years since I was in high school and we always heard about "the big fight" for that day, or at the burger king later that night.... This is nothing new. Sadly, what's changed is the parenting of our kids. It starts far younger than HS. I'm shocked at the number of my 11 year old daughter's friends who watch pretty little liars and tv shows like that. And these are shows on ABC family. A so called "family" station! If so many kids and parents knew about this where were you? Why weren't you peppering the school and county administration with phone calls and voicemails?
Casey
10:50 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
these comments are ridiculous. The parents gossip more than the students. I go to C Milton and found out about every single fight without using my cell phone. Just because kids have their cell phones, it's not changing that fact that people are fighting. There was absolutely no stabbing involved- again shows that parents gossip more than the students. There were five fights before this one, so I believe that is why there was increased police prescence. The administrators have banned cell phones as much as they can- if you are seen with one at any time of day it is taken from you- but that doesn't stop kids from using them. Stop spreadin rubies and take it as it is- yes, students fought this week. Yes, the administration has tried to stop it and are considering taking away time in between class. Yes, the thousands of kids not involved in fights are perfectly safe, the fights are planned ahead of time. I've never seen a spur of the moment fight. Ever. So parents need to stop spreading dumped because you look really ridiculous.
Casey
10:51 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
spreading rumors** not rubies, autocorrect (:
Kassy
11:11 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
No wonder the kids at my school are messed up, most of you parents are whack jobs. These are regular, plain-old, school fights. Same as when you all were kids. No stabbing. No knives. Kids like to embellish. Kids like to say there were ten fights last week when there were seven; they like to say that there was a knife instead of a pencil. As parents, you should be aware that teenagers stretch the truth. And you should calm down and stop hovering. If your kid's smart enough to stay out of fights, your kid'll be fine.
Now stop smack talking the entire student body, administration, and school system because a couple kids exchanged some punches. Most of you all seem like the sort of people who're only content when the world's ending.
Marie Weimer
11:54 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Casey and Kassy....I agree.
And, for someone to compare this to Columbine is just ludacris!
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
4:36 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Can any of you explain the need for arrests, versus the other 'planned' fights that have occurred recently? And comparing to Columbine isn't ludicrous (spelled correctly), it's reality. Do a little research, and you'll see violence in the school is happening more often today than in the past 100 years of education, and every town originally felt it could 'never happen there.' You three should be glad there are parents so worried about your safety...would you rather no one cares?
CB9678
8:05 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
@ Mary
Easy to explain.....apperently suspending the kids and calling home was not getting through. Time to toss on the cuffs! Honestly they should start perp walking them all out in handcuffs.
Second the increased violence and misbehavior is because the days are gone where parents and teachers beat the kids. I do not mean abuse but to send the message that behaving like this is wrong. If I had fought as a kid like this my parents would have whooped that azz in the vernacular of the kids!
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
9:28 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
@CD9678 - I love the thought of making an example of them with the cuffs, but legally that doesn't fly with me - and if that were the case, the parents would have a ripe opportunity for charging the police with bias. Having said that, I love your idea of perp walking them ALL out in cuffs, and keeping them locked up until the parents show up at the detention center - regardless of what happens to them at school! I also agree 100% with you on the loss of our parental 'Fear Factor'...growing up, the idea of my Dad's beatings were enough to keep all five of us on the straight and narrow (for the most part!) Kids today don't fear their parents as much, so why should they fear their teachers, or suspension, or anything else!?! I know what you mean about not being abusive - there is a difference! But back then, our parents would NEVER have doubted the word of another adult, especially one from school! I've seen parents argue with other parents (and me!!) about how their child couldn't POSSIBLY have done what they were accused of doing! Think about it...what does the teacher/neighbor have to gain by lying about your kid? Nothing. What does the child have to gain by lying? Everything.
CB9678
10:20 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Mary, arresting them is very legal. Assault does not require the victim to pursue charges if it was witnessed. Disrupting school operations is also a perfectly legitimate charge i this caseas well. SOit would be very legal to have them charged and take them to the detention center. All the school has to do is notify the parents that the child is being transfered to the custody of the Harford County Sherriffs Office!
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
3:14 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012
CB9678 - What I meant was that in light of all the other recent fights, the parents would say their arrested children were treated unfairly when compared to others! If it is legal, and I have no cause to doubt your word, then I wish they would do this each time a fight broke out. Inconvenience the parents the way their children inconvenienced the school! If you report a stray animal, the owners get a warning the first time, a ticket the second - but in both cases, they have to pay the Humane Society for keeping their pets caged (and safe!) pending their being picked up! Works for pets...why not teenagers??
CB9678
8:57 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012
Mary, Law enforcement is not always "fair" just like it is not "fair" when you get caught speeding but the other ten cars don't get pulled over.
Mary Colleen Sheridan Allan
9:54 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
...true...
1ke
12:02 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
As a former teacher and administrator who worked in a much more difficult setting than that a C. Milton Wright, I think that a big chunk of Kassy's analysis should rule this argument. Cell phones are a way of life and they lead to exaggerations in the short-term, when everyone is excited, and in the long-term, when anxious parents start cross-examining their kids.
Fights happen and, in every situation except gang-related situations, they settle some things, such as who is not going to accept being bullied and who will stick up for whom.
Stabbings are rare, although knife-toting has become more and more common. Young people are afraid because the instant media features violence, but the use of knives is infrequent because young people have learned restraint.
Sadly, it appears that he glare of publicity caused the suspensions, none of which is not to say that family-school-family conversations did not have to take place to restore stability. Hopefully a professionally facilitated reinstatement conference will make that happen.
C. Milton Wright is a good school that can certainly manage this small problem. Parents and the larger community have a lot to be thankful for in that regard.
Steve Fairbaugh
5:38 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Who raised these kids? Parents can blame the school, teachers and Sheriffs Dept. all they want. But why don't they ever think about who is really responsible for their children's actions? Maybe if the parents were held responsible for their "Thug" kids, things would change!
tradewinds
7:27 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Kids will figure a way to keep their cell phones on them in the schools. as far as the parents should be concerned - wake up - and stop thinking your kids are saints. i have been in high school with my daughter - and the disrespect there is unbelievable. how many times did they need to throw the f-bomb my way - even seeing i was right in front of them. parents need an overhaul - and need to re-strategize parenting skills. it's way scary ......
Hazzard Native
12:03 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Idea - instead of suspension, send the fighters to a Baltimore City public high school for a week. Cute little white kids in Hollister and Uggs breaking bad at Dunbar, can you imagine?
1ke
4:15 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Good point, Hazzard. You know your stuff. We can clear one thing up. These young people are not hard. They fight only when they can get a free ride to school, a captive audience of their peers, and only when there are enough adults nearby to make sure it does not get out of hand. Nobody gets hurt too badly when soft kids fight.
Hard kids do not even come to school. Hard kids are about money and without street cred, you can't make money and hang on to it. Hard kids will fight to the death over respect.
Good Mom
9:40 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Hazzard you are so right! I transfered my kids to Harford County from Balto county this year for middle and high schools and my kids tell me that the fights in HCPS are a joke compared to BCPS. They think HCPS is like a walk in the park and they weren't even in a bad part of Balto county. LOL. I think the C Milton parents are blowing this way out of proportion. Kids fight in all schools. There is nothing earth shattering going on. These parents have just getting a dose of reality in their spoiled little Bel Air environment.
I do agree that it all comes down to parenting. Does anyone tell their kids "NO" anymore? All these TV shows promoting teen pregnancy like "Celebrity" Teen Mom where you can have a child at 16 and make money and Sweet Sixteen where you too can be given cars and huge parties for acting like a complete spolied brat. So frustrating to watch! I raise my kids to be grateful for what they have and hard work is rewarded. These parents doing all this "super sleuthing" like checking emails and FB pages are just creating an enviroment of super criminals that learn from an early age how to hide things. It creates a false facade that you are somehow in control of everything when you have no clue what your kids are doing behind your back because they are afraid to talk to you because you are a control freak!Teach yor kids to be trustworthy and you won't need to worry about it.
Lori
12:47 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Good Mom-I respectfully disagree. I have taught my children to be trustworthy and I also monitor their activities. They all have jobs, are honor roll and are very respectable members of society. We have very open communication but they know there are rules and expectations. It's not a matter of being in "control or super sleuthing", it boils down to teaching them right from wrong and making an impression on them that there are and will be consequences for their actions not only at home but for the rest of their lives in the outside world.
Good Mom
9:02 am on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Lori, you just proved my point. You taught your kids to be trustworthy. You can monitor until you are blue in the face, but the child has to be taught correctly from the beginning. Kids shouldn't be allowed to have cell phones and FB if they can't be trusted to begin with. They too are straight A students, grateful for anything they receive and have far better manners than any kids I know. They are given freedom until they give me a reason to doubt their actions.
I have personal experience with several friends and family members that think they are some kind of Super Parents because they rip the phones out of their child's hands to check their texts and think somehow that means the child knows right from wrong because they checked on them. Their children are some of the most devious kids I have ever met.
My point is that if you expect your child to be untrustworthy, you will be granted your wish everytime. You have set the bar very low for them.