Harford County Executive Opposes Walmart Move
Walmart officially reached out to the Harford County Council about plans to build a new store in Bel Air.
Harford County Executive David Craig issued a statement Tuesday opposing Walmart's proposed move from an existing Abingdon location to a new site in Bel Air.
Walmart has proposed a 185,706 sq. ft. location at the intersection of Plumtree Road and Emmorton Road, or MD Route 924, in Bel Air. If the new store opens, the location in Constant Friendship will close and all the employees will move to the new store.
The plan for the Bel Air location was met with backlash from the community back in 2011, with residents along the Route 924 corridor holding meetings and expressing opposition to the Harford County Council.
The opposition base remains strong against Walmart, with one online petition gaining 400 signatures. A recent informational meeting held at Patterson Mill High School drew more than 800 people, many of whom were vocal against the project.
"While Walmart can, by right under the law, develop this property, I stand with our citizens and urge Walmart to reconsider plans to relocate from Abingdon to Bel Air," Craig said in his statement (view Craig's full statement below).
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The following is the county executive's unedited statement:
“Harford County Government has been officially notified by representatives of Walmart of their interest in relocating from the current location at Constant Friendship near Abingdon to a site on Plumtree Road near Bel Air. The proposal includes plans for a Walmart Supercenter at the Bel Air location, which is a significant expansion beyond the size of the current store.
“I have serious concerns regarding the proposed construction of a Walmart at the site discussed. It is in my opinion the wrong location and not characteristic of the smaller type of retail we had hoped would complement the existing community shopping centers in the area. But more importantly, I have serious concerns about how the proposed project will impact traffic and public safety.
“I feel that it would in the long run be better for the county if Walmart were to re-invest in their Constant Friendship location. All too often, we are quick to abandon older facilities and communities in favor of new locations without looking at ways to revitalize what we already have. Now that the state has put the finishing touches on the new interchange at 24 and 924, the traffic situation in that area has improved greatly, and the current location is much better equipped to handle the volume of traffic that a store such as Walmart generates.
“While Walmart can, by right under the law, develop this property, I stand with our citizens and urge Walmart to reconsider plans to relocate from Abingdon to Bel Air. My administration is interested in working with Walmart to find a more amenable solution that will allow them to expand at their current Constant Friendship/Abingdon location. I encourage citizens to stay engaged in this process and to let their voices be heard. I hope that we can work together on a plan that is better for our citizens and our community.”
j johnson (formerly jj)
7:08 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
But will he do anything about it?
Gareth
1:00 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Well, he said he hopes to work with Walmart to see how they can be persuaded to stay in Abingdon. Sounds to me like there might be some monetary incentives on offer to do so. Best of luck to him. I hope Walmart is willing to talk.
What else can he do? He can't unilaterally stop them from moving.
Mark
7:29 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
I think the new location would be great for Walmart and the surrounding area.. That so called improved new interchange at 24 and 924 really does nothing to help access that poorly planned mess of a shopping area where they are now... The new location would not only improve the area but you would have at least 3ways to enter and exit.
HappieGrannie
7:18 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Honestly I prefer it at the new location because it is a PIA trying to get to the Abingdon location. I live in the Darlington area and hate the drive. The Fallston store is also hard to get to because of being on Rt 1.
Jen Lynn
9:57 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I am sure if you lived across the street you would not like it. I can guarantee this one will be just as tough to get in and out of. It currently takes me a very long time to pull out of my community without a Walmart and the entrance and exit of my community will be shared with the entrance and exit of the new Walmart.
Emily
11:05 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Happie, you think it's a good idea because it won't be in your neighborhood. Put yourself in our place. There's always the Aberdeen Walmart!
Belairmom
4:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Grannie, how about the Aberdeen one, that's closer to Darlington anyway? If you are looking for easy access, you won't find it at the Plumtree one either.
HappieGrannie
4:46 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
JenLynn/Emily: if they put one out this way I would not fight it. Wouldn't mind one out here.
Belairmom: I am not a fan of the Aberdeen one since I find it poorly managed and from where I live and work the one in Aberdeen is not closer then the Plumtree one will be. As for getting in the planned one on Plumtree the plans make it look fairly easy
Take Responsibility!
7:52 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
How is the Fallston store hard to get to, it has a light at it's entrance. Easy peasy grandma!
Ashley
8:22 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Agreed.
Emily
11:12 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Exactly!
HappieGrannie
4:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
No just trying to get there on that part of Rt 1 is the issue not the turn into the store. Too many people not paying attention when making lane changes
CB9678
8:05 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
So we are against the idea of successful buisnesses growing and expanding?
Emily
11:06 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
No one is against fair trade, but just how many Super Walmarts does 1 county need? Again, is it going to be in YOUR backyard????
CB9678
1:49 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Actually it is currently in my back yard along with the movie theater, Target, Loew's, BJ's etc. Why where you not watching those zoning posters in your back yard 4 years ago?
lierry benks
8:11 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Dear Republican supporters,
Next time you complain about Obama and the Dems not doing enough to reduce the unemployment rate, think back to Mr. Craig (Republican) attempting to thwart the Walmart expansion and the numerous jobs it would create.
Oh, and don't move to Harford County and complain about all the people moving there.
Karl Schuub
8:22 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Smart growth means to provide for the expansion of residences and businesses in an orderly manner that makes sense and provides for maximum benefit and preserves a quality of life for everyone. Walmart is doing fine - we have three Walmarts within the county - 2 of them within a 10 minute drive of each other. Assuming the Walmart doesn't move to the Plum Tree location is not to assume nothing moves to that location. All those alternate smaller retail shops also employ people - your argument is false.
lierry benks
8:44 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
But don't we want more jobs? Isn't that good for the economy? If you were looking for Smart Growth, you shouldn't have moved to Harford County.
Karl Schuub
9:25 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
You need to do some reading...at minimum check the county master plan - Harford County is on record (as most counties in MD) as adopting what's considered Smart Growth policies - it doesn't preclude people from expansion and growth but promotes the idea of best use perameters in zoning decisions.
Emily
11:07 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
It's NOT creating new jobs, simply transferring present ones. Wake up!
Michael Scott
11:27 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I'm not sure what the Harford County Master Plan says, but the County Exec who opposes this says the move is consistent with current law, so either he's wrong or the plan does not carry with it the force of law. Seeing all the haphazard development all along Route 24, I am somewhat surprised that there is a Master Plan!
Also, Mr. Benks is right about the jobs--the Wal Mart plan is not just a move of retail locations, it also involves a "major expansion," meaning a net jobs gain. I'm no fan of Wal-Mart and would hate to have one near my backyard, but if I still lived in HarCo I would have to grudgingly accept it as a consequence of pro-business, anti-regulation policies enacted by the Republican-dominated council. You reap what you sow!
Karl Schuub
11:59 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I'll repeat again...that spot is zoned for commercial use and I think everyone expects some form of developement; most likely something more amenable to the surrounding residences which there are many. That being the case those smaller businesses that will open also employ people. This is about a SUPER Walmart, emphasis on SUPER which has it's primary ingress/egress onto Emmorton Rd. That's crazy. There is no job loss if Walmart doesn't locate at Plumtree because other business will.
lierry benks
12:42 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
We'd all like a Starbucks instead of a Super Walmart in our back yard, but that doesn't appear to be an option at the moment.
CB9678
1:53 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Karl what small buisnesses are trying to locate there? The owner wants to sell the land he should not have to ask you permission to do to his land what it is zoned for and open a buisness of his choice! The time to complain was 4 years ago.
adminnikePrinz
8:14 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
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Chris
8:17 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I shop at Target and almost never go to Walmart - they seem to bring such riff raff.
Take Responsibility!
8:31 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Target brings snooty riff raff who despite being trash themselves, they like to think they are higher class trash than walmart shoppers.
What a DUMB comment Chris, let some of the air out of your head.
DJ
8:54 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
The possible good thing about Wal Mart moving to Bel Air is that they would pay for the roads to be widened and such, probably making the traffic flow better. That's something a lot of small businesses on the same land cannot afford to do.
Mike-21015
9:46 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
So, I've been following these Bel-Air Walmart discussions for a few months now...
As far as the common complaints most often heard regarding "Walmart", i.e.:
1) "stereotyping/labeling" of clientele shopping at walmart
2) increased crime
3) decreasing property value
4) degradation of quality of life, etc etc...
I think we can all at least agree these are more "perceptions", and not real certainties related to the integration of a new Walmart into a community?
Discussions like this, and especially as we observed at the local meeting at Patterson Mill, tend to be overrun by people's "emotions" (which of course can get the best of us all!), rather than good solid facts.
If we want to fight or make a case against this at all, it needs to be driven more by facts and/or real concerns,versus here-say or "Walmart fears" that you can easily find all over the net.....
Fallston just had their Walmart built recently, what do local residents say about this?
1) Has there been an influx of shady or low-lifes in the area?
2) Has crime itself gone up in the area?
3) Has traffic been seriously impacted? (although probably not apples to apples with our case in Bel-Air, because Fallston Walmart is in a more industrial area, off of Rt. 1)
4) Do local residents feel their quality of life has been impacted?
5) Any local businesses been closing up, or having trouble, etc etc?
Mike-21015
9:48 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Unfortunately, it seems only good facts will make a difference at this point. We need more than just emotions to send to the local Bel Air council, we need facts and/or data..... I'm sure Walmart will do what suits "them" best when doing that traffic study, if they did not already complete it?
A fully independent traffic study would be a good first step, to show the real volume/congestion already in Bel Air. I've lived here for 2 years, coming from PA, and I must say, we do have serious congestion issues, especially during morning/evening rush, and on weekends!
As far as my personal opinion, I don't like Walmart whatsoever, I will never shop there. I dislike their business model, practices, etc. But these are my personal opinions.
This Plumtree road plot, seems like an absolute traffic disaster as it currently stands. Rt. 924 is so overloaded already during peak hours, and so are many of the cross-streets to Rt. 24.
I would love to "believe" that Walmart will pay to expand the roads, but what is the true reality? Walmart is all about minimizing costs, maximize profits... If there is no main entrance to this store via Rt. 24, then Rt. 924 will pay the price, I can't even imagine how that will look on weekends, or busy shopping times?
Penelope Patch
12:38 am on Sunday, October 21, 2012
Mike,
I agree with you. I do not shop at Walmart either and am perplexed as to why we need so many in our area. It sounds like the "deal is done" and I think that what we are currently seeing is phony political posturing. I would hate to see Craig buy off Walmart with taxpayer dollars, which would be a horrible use of public money. Maybe the best way for everyone to voice their opinion to Walmart is...just don't shop there. For the folks who approved the zoning change, vote them out of office. Why do we keep shopping in places that don't care anything about us? They don't even treat their own employees well. We have more influence than we think and on many different levels.
Terry
9:56 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Is it election year for County executive?????
Emily
11:10 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Terry, he CAN'T run for a 3rd term.
Lauren
10:45 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
It isn't creating jobs!!! They are moving the employees from the abingdon store to the proposed new one. It's a stupid move that isn't necessary. A smaller business that doesn't exist around here would be better.... Go to fallston if you like Wal-Mart that much!!!
Emily
11:10 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
AGREED
lierry benks
11:12 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
It'll be a bigger Walmart (meaning more people to hire), and all the construction associated with the building of the store will provide jobs.
Karl Schuub
12:10 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Are we still trying sell this silly argument. You think the other smaller businesses that move there will pitch tents? Really the only brick and mortar construction that will be done will be if it's a Walmart? It's zoned for commercial use - the lot is being sold for commercial use and unless the government seizes the property through eminent domain there's no changing that.
lierry benks
12:46 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Karl,
Who else is asking to build there? What small business wants to build there?
CB9678
1:55 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
The store is expanding hence it will need to hire MORE employees, additionally to build the store will create more construction jobs. Lauren what smaller buisness wants to open there? Maybe they should bid against Wallmart for the land.
HappieGrannie
4:52 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Lauren: Have you not been listening? They are enlarging the store so not only will they move present employees there but they will need lots of new ones. And some of us prefer to shop closer then Fallston
selnhms
9:36 am on Sunday, April 14, 2013
A smaller business couldn't afford to buy the property and run a profit. If you are selling a commercial property of that size you will need a large corporation for it to make financial sense. Wow we really need financial literacy classes to be mandatory in High Schools.
NoWalmart
10:47 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
County Executive David Craig said "Walmart can, by right under the law, develop this property." He's an executive and along with the City Council they can go in and rewrite the law to specifically exclude Walmart, if they really wanted to. Craig is just posturing to make it look like he's on the voters side of this issue
Gareth
3:45 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I do not want the Walmart to move either, but it boggles my mind how ignorant people are about what local government can and cannot do. For starters, there is no "City Council" as a couple of posters have said. Either they mean the County Council or they might be thinking of the Bel Air Town Commissioners (alough as it's not in the town limits they have no role.)
Also, since the property is zoned B3, a business like Walmart can locate there if they own or buy the property. If the County were to specifically exclude Walmart, they would be taken to court and would lose easily. The County cannot legally say no to Walmart yes to Whole Foods (for example).
Our only hope is that Walmart can be persuaded to expand at their current location, but that will probably take some incentives from the County (i.e. money). Realistically, even if Walmart doesn't move in, a 17 acre site that close to Bel Air that is zoned B3 will not stay vacant for long.
Leslie Schildgen
11:25 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
"While Walmart can, by right under the law, develop this property, I stand with our citizens and urge Walmart to reconsider plans to relocate from Abingdon to Bel Air."
Sounds to me like he is siding with the citizens and votes "No" to the relocation.
Bernadette
11:25 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
NoWalmart...I totally agree with you. Craig is just being political or on the fence.
VolunteerMom2
12:26 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I've thought about this some more. I think they should leave Wal-Mart right where it is.
Target has food in it, at that location. Is Wal-Mart that greedy that they can't wait and make changes later. It already has milk, bread, eggs, cereals. Maybe they should make a milk, bread, eggs stand up closer to the door. Wait a minute, might as well add toilet paper to that list.
CB9678
1:58 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Should they have to wait to exand their buisness later when they can afford and want to erxand now and have the option to. If it was Bloom's Broom and they wanted to ad on now should they have to wait?
Karl Schuub
2:02 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
This is about smart growth - the appropriateness of development to it's surrounds including existing neighborhoods. If Brooms Bloom wanted to expand nobody would complain because it's a farm, they make ice cream, ice cream sales help preserve the farm. Now if Broom's Bloom wanted to build an indoor soccer stadium with 500 car parking lot it might raise eyebrows. The community has a right to complain when developement impedes their quality of life.
CB9678
2:31 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Yes but the zoning was for a large buisness and they should have complained 4 years ago. No one did at the time! Free market dictates this. So Karl are you in favor of anti-free market regulations
Karl Schuub
2:34 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Never said that...what I said is that citizens have a right to complain if it's 4 years ago or today - granted 4 years ago would have been more wise and certainly more effective. If your question really is do I think anybody has a right to build anything they want anywhere they want then the answer is no I don't.
CB9678
11:01 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Well Karl I think you need to paint your house because it upsets me!
Emily
6:31 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Botttom line...........Bel Air doesn't want the Walmart......nuff said.
Jeff
8:27 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
All Craig is doing is being a politician, pandering to the anti-Walmarters by appearing to be on their side, but isn't his name signed on the zoning change approving it? Didn't the County Council approve it? The zoning is in place, the Walmart is coming, complain all you want. No laws are being broken, unless the County tries to "exclude" Walmart like some are saying. The landowner has the right to sell his land to the highest bidder & the bidder purchasing the land, as long as the property has the proper zoning, can build what they want as long as it is in compliance with the zoning. As I believe I saw on early stories or in the Aegis, I cannot recall, but there was a post or letter from someone of the Friends of Harford (FOH), talking about when the zoning was changed they were the only ones to stand up & raise an issue, none of the 800+ anti-Walmarters who were @ Patterson Mill a few weeks ago were there. None of the now "outraged" politicians, who approved the zoning change then raised an issue, they were for it. Now, Mr. Craig, who aspires to higher office outside of Harford County, & gave away county taxpayer money earlier this year to prove it, now "Stands with the Citizens of Harford County." You cannot make this stuff up. The store will be built & I am sure when it is it will exceed the sales projections Walmart expects to see. The fact is the zoning is in place, the store will be built, it is too late to stop, & nothing can be done to stop it. Scream all you want.
EMMS
10:38 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Those addressing the current zoning status are correct. Even if Walmart decides against moving to the Plumtrre location, there will most certainly be a different retailer who will happily take advantage of this prime location. It's a shame the community is now finding itself in such a frustrating position. The lesson for us all is to become more aware and involved in our community so our voices are heard when it matters most.
Aaron
8:30 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
I don't have a problem with a neighborhood size store going into this site. I do feel it should not be so large that it needs to open up into route 924. It should just be sized to use Plumtree Rd and Bel Air Parkway via the new Blue Spruce Dr.
Please leave a path of evergreen trees and bicycle path along 924 not extra traffic and traffic lights.
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Mike-21015
2:05 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Yep, I agree, we are somewhat screwed, as far as the zoning goes, the plot is essentially up for grabs.....
I would love to see "their" traffic study results, and compare with an independent traffic study.....
It does scare me a bit thinking about all of the "could happen" scenarios if this Walmart does end up here, and it is a 24-hr super-center.... I do hope many of those things are more fears than they are facts...
I know the Fallston Walmart is in more of a business setting, whereas this would be smacked right around dozens of neighborhoods...
I had heard that this plot, and many other much larger plots around Bel-Air are still owned by this same owner? Anyone know anything about this?
I would like to pay more attention to other vacant lots around, so we can be more pro-active looking ahead, so this doesn't happen again...
Common Sense
2:58 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
David Craig will be rewarded abundantly with votes if he does all in his power and keeps Walmart in their present location. It does not fit in the Bel Air South Community.
Common Sense
2:59 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
David Craig will be rewarded abundantly with votes if he does all in his power and keeps Walmart at their present location. It does not fit in the Bel Air South Community.
Common Sense
3:02 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
If you have not done so all ready please write your county representatives. Here are their addresses:
County Executive
David R. Craig
Harford County Government
220 South Main Street
Bel Air, MD 21014
Director of Planning and Zoning
Pete C. Gutwald
220 South Main Street
2nd Floor
Bel Air, MD 21014
County Councilman District 'C'
James V. McMahan
212 South Bond Street
1st Floor
Bel Air, MD 21014
Patrick B.
5:35 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
This has got to be the dumbest location I can think of traffic wise.Even during light traffic during the day this area gets bottlenecked easy.At one time a rifle and pistol range was supposed to bulit here believe it or not.It was going to be a club but the backers could never put together the money and I am sure neighbors wouldn't have like that idea very much.
Jeff
1:51 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
While it is too late to stop the Walmart, I hope all the anti-Walmarters have learned a lesson that the time to show up isn't when it's too late, & start screaming @ meetings & instead of being civil. The time is to show up is for the hearings about zoning changes, because obviously no one cared to do so when the opportunity was given, except for the Friends of Harford, who were ignored by Craig, who signed the zoning change after it was approved by the County Council. The same politicians who now are "Standing with the citizens" on this issue. I sure hope "the citizens" aren't buying these politicians new found "Anti-Walmart religion" & can see thru their smokecreen. Very good rditorial in The Aegis on Friday about this matter.
Mark
7:24 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
I think the new location would be great for Walmart and the surrounding area.. That so called improved new interchange at 24 and 924 really does nothing to help access that poorly planned mess of a shopping area where they are now... The new location would not only improve the area but you would have at least 3ways to enter and exit.
Penelope Patch
12:49 am on Sunday, October 21, 2012
I hope that if Craig runs, that the rest of the State pay close attention to the way he has conducted business here. I have seen this administration move so far left it is touching the right. They know what is best for us and its sickening. STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY ON STUPID STUFF, Mr. Craig. There is nothing to be done about Walmart because the politicans have long signed it off through zoning. It serves us right and as a life-long Harford County citizen I am so disappointed in what our county has become. They make it all look good from the outside, but there's a lot of dirt going on in the inside. As a citizen, why not register our sentiment with Walmart by not shopping there?
Ahmad0001
12:17 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Well, he said he hopes to work with Walmart to see how they can be persuaded to stay in Abingdon. http://www.onlinedatastoragesite.com/softwares/safeguard-my-kid-online-choosing-parental-manage-software.html