Voter approval of a bill granting in-state tuition to some illegal immigrants could have economic benefits totalling $66 million annually, according to a study released this week.
The study, released by the Maryland Institute for Policy Analysis and Research at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, also found that costs to community colleges and four-year universities may not be fully covered by state subsidies. The shortfall could result in either an increase in tuition or the reduction of classes offered.
Authors wrote that the study highlights "that by increasing educational attainment, the DREAM Act will increase lifetime earnings of beneficiaries, as well as tax revenues." [A copy of the study is attached to this article.]
Marylanders will be asked to vote on the bill on Nov. 6.
As passed by the General Assembly in 2011, the law would offer in-state tuition to illegal immigrants under certain conditions including:
- Attended a public or nonpublic high school in Maryland for at least three years beginning in the 2005-2006 school year.
- Graduated from high school or received a GED in Maryland no earlier than the 2007-2008 school year.
- Can provide documentation that the student or student's parent or legal guardian filed a state income tax return for at least three years while the student was in high school.
- Registers for community college within four years of high school graduation
- Begins attending community college no earlier than the 2010 fall semester.
- Files an application to become a permanent resident within 30 days of becoming eligible to do so.
As many as 185 additional students who would have not graduated from high school annually will graduate as a result of the DREAM Act, according to the study.
About 435 students will attend community college as a result of the law, according to the study.
If approved by voters, students can attend community colleges in Maryland at the in-state rate and possibly at the in-county rate if they live within the same county as the college. The difference between in-county and the higher out-of-state tuition rates can run as much as $7,000 annually per student per semester.
Students who graduate from community college are eligible for the in-state tuition rate at Maryland's public universities. The difference in tuition runs an average of $10,000 higher for an out-of-state student compared to a Maryland resident, according to a Maryland Department of Legislative Services review.
The study says that total state, local and federal bill of $7.4 million annually is offset by $32 million in net benefits.
The so-called "crowding out effect," an area of concern cited by opponents , was not addressed by the study.
Community colleges have an open admission standard and must accept any student who meets the minimum qualifications.
The authors wrote that they believed "the DREAM Act will not have a negative impact on the number of citizens admitted as freshman to four-year universities(if anything, it will open up space)."
The study estimates that only 102 students annually will transfer to four-year universities. More than 117,000 students were enrolled in state universities in Maryland in 2012.
The study does cite concerns about "reductions in tuition paid by those who take advantage of the DREAM Act will result in lost revenue to Maryland community colleges and universities. However, this lost revenue will not directly translate into an increase in state or county government spending [subsidies]."
The result could be that universities raise tuition or reduce the number of classes or other services offered to students though the authors wrote that they believe the lost tuition revenue will be "relatively small."
The costs of the act could also increase if the law "makes Maryland a more attractive destination for undocumented immigrants and their families," according to the report.
JD1
2:30 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
But wait - EVERY person who has supported the Dream Act in previous posts stated repeatedly that it would not cost anything......guess they were WRONG! As for the potential salaries and taxes that will be paid at some time in the future - that is pure speculation. It assumes that these folks will get jobs, stay in the state, file taxes ...etc. the fact that this policy will make MD a magnet for additional illegals is a FACT. Be smart folks!
Karl
9:20 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I couldn't have said this better. Thank You.
mcgillicuddy
1:43 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Ditto!
Steve
2:34 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Be Smart. Vote FOR the DREAM Act. Read the report it's a "Win-Win" situation.
jimiknowsbest
4:21 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
illegal is illegal !!! Why not let all crimminals 3000 to go to school.
amdactivist
8:30 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve, it is not a win win situation for taxpayers. Md is now $2billion a year deficit and Md taxpayers now pay $1 billion a year to educate the many children of illegal aliens from kindergarten through grade 12. Why should taxpayers subsidize the children of illegals to go to college for kids 18-80 costing us millions more? Can your child go to another state college and get instate tuition paid for by tax $$? They will be storming into md to get tax $$ for education. It will cost taxpayers an average of more then $17k per student per year costing Millions or more. Md taxpayers also pay in excess of another $1 billion for welfare, medicaid, incarcerations, food stamps and other benefits illegal aliens get with our $$..Not including our jobs.. It is also a felon to hire illegal aliens so why pay for their college if they can't work here? Yet in Md. Anything goes. If an employer is caught hiring illegal aliens, it is a felon to hire them then they can and will be fined up to $95k per illegal working and can include jail time.. This is a nightmare act for all of us. I urge all to vote no on the Dream act and beware folks, it has mention of our troops to distract you from Dream act. Vote NO for #4 Dream act . the next comment will have the 4 referendums that we all gathered thousands of petitions to get on ballot. Let the voters decide
Joe
2:39 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
""Community colleges and four-year universities could lose revenue and might have to reduce the number of classes offered or increase tuition. Costs to community colleges and four-year universities may not be fully covered by state subsidies. The shortfall could result in either an increase in tuition or the reduction of classes offered."
That's what the opponents have been saying the entire time!
All those opponents have now been proven correct.
Joe
2:42 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
"may not be fully covered by state subsidies"
There were those here saying that the "in state" rate was NOT A SUBSIDY but that out of staters "pay more" and it will not cost the state anything.
So, where did the people doing this study get the idea that the state SUBSIDIZES the tuition of these illegal aliens education. Are those that did the study wrong or are those who said out of staters PAY MORE?
amdactivist
8:48 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
they are wrong. It will cost taxpayers Millions or more.. They will be storming into our colleges from other states and we pay for it while it also will over crowd our colleges and keep our children from education.. Al;so it is a felon to hire them yet Md omalley's new americans can work anywhere they want. Illegals are working and most of our american construction workers, landscapers, roofers are unemployed yet their are laws that state if an employer hires illegal aliens it could cost them up to $95k per illegal on their work force including jail time.. Just like it did for "By the docks" restaurant a few years ago..
Steve
3:00 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
The only thing that was a little disappointing in the study is that it didn't address the Veterans' aspect of the law. It would have been interesting to compare and contrast the effects on the two different groups of people the law addresses.
Ann Miller
10:41 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Steve, the MD Dream Act amended an existing law that already grants the benefits to the military. the only change in that existing law is to increase the time they have to apply for those benefits. If the MD Dream Act goes away, the benefits to the military stay.
Steve
10:53 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
How many of the Hate Groups that were peddling the Petition even bothered to tell the signees that there even was a Veterans component in the law?
How many Dumbos signed it without even reading the law?
Joe
11:04 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
30% of the signers of the petition were those "Dumbos" who are registered Democrats! they must all belong to "hate groups" as well.
Steve
11:33 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Here is a good explanation of the DREAm Act for the anti DREAM/anti-military types
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-10-10/news/bs-md-rodricks-1011-20121010_1_maryland-dream-act-college-tuition-tuition-rate
Joe
4:01 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
IF the parents of these students have been filing taxes as the law states, that means they have been working. That means they have been violating the laws on top of the violation of the laws for being here illegally. They may also be guilty of identity theft or identity fraud.
So when they go to file back taxes, they will be admitting to breaking the law by working illegally possibly with a stolen identity. There will be repercussions for violating the laws using their own paperwork and applications.
Joe
9:30 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
If that is the case Karl they must me arrested for taking benefits they are not legally entitled to. Illegal aliens are not legally entitled to taxpayer funded welfare etc. Even though the Obama regime has been advertising food stamps on Mexican news outlets and Spanish speaking newspapers.
Steve
4:12 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Maybe it is investment income...........
Karl
9:25 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Maybe they've been filing tax returns and collecting money from the government because they have no or low income.
JD1
4:21 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Since all these new college grads will have those high paying jobs and will be paying all those taxes they will surely be able I afford to pay off their school loan to cover the out of state tuition costs. Argument over ... FINALLY!
jimiknowsbest
4:24 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Deport them that will make it real easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim
4:24 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Please. As if they won't increase tuition one way or the other.
It's just like the fear mongering over Obamacare. Extortion and blackmail are rampant in this country among the corporate elite. It's all despicable.
Joe
4:40 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Fear mongering over ObamaCare? Your right. Why should anyone be afraid of ObamaCare?
Obamacare: $27.6 Billion in New Regulations
http://americanactionforum.org/sites/default/files/ACA_regs.pdf
"A new report released by the American Action Forum shows Obamacare has imposed $27.6 billion in new regulations. Most of the burden of these new regulations will fall on private entities: “at least $20.4 billion in lifetime costs on private entities and $7.2 billion in increased burdens on state budgets,” according to the report.
Besides the added costs on states and private entities, the 85 new Obamacare regulations will require more than 60 million hours of new paperwork.
Twenty states will lose the equivalent of 300 full-time employees’ worth of work to filling out ACA regulatory red tape. Additionally, 27 states have a burden of over $300 million in new regulatory costs.
And costs will only go up from there. The report notes that these new regulations likely “represent a cost floor, and not a ceiling to implement the ACA.”
So what if $27,600,000,000 is taken out of the private sector and put into the government thieves pockets! So what if the people don't have that to spend in the economy.
Tim
7:13 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Joe: Oh look, rolling out conservative think tank views again. Par for the course.
Not a single health company needed to raise rates anywhere near what they have been over the past 3-4 years...yet these corrupt companies have, and they blame "Obamacare" - parts of the law that won't even begin to kick in until 2014 at the earliest. Yes, a handful of measures went in up until now, but very minor. This is obvious, to anyone with an objective eye, extortion. Insurance companies raise rates and say "Hey, we think Obamacare will cost us money" even though they don't have the foggiest idea how it'll shake out years from now. Only guesstimates based on a moving target.
Then there's blatant extortion, like from this douche bag David Siegel:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ceo-workers-youll-likely-fired-131640914.html
I tell you what, if this country's conservative media machine would focus its efforts on all the fat people in this country raising our health costs due to weight related diseases, they'd do this country a lot more good and save the system a lot more money.
Except that's not what the health insurance industry wants. Healthy people don't make insurance companies money, do they?
Joe
7:54 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
"Joe: Oh look, rolling out conservative think tank views again. Par for the course."
So sorry Tim. Next time I will post stories that support your side. How could I be so one sided? How can I hold such ideals and attempt to defend them? How stupid that is eh?
Joe
7:56 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Tim, I can look at the study done by American Action Forum and decide for myself.
So please submit your study for peer review.
John
5:33 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
It's been said before but bears repeating: Illegal is Illegal! It's as simple as that. We should not be rewarding illegal behavior for any reason or in any way. If made law, where will the colleges find enough Spanish speaking teachers for these students since the majority won't learn to speak English. Look at service anywhere: Press # to hear this message in Spanish.
Tim
7:15 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Totally agree. It's of course unfortunate that kids are put in this situation, but blame the parents for doing so, not the government.
Steve
5:39 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Tell that to the Speed Camera Whiners...........
Most of them probably speak better English then you do. They grew up here and attended High School here.
This law doesn't just cover children of Hispanic backgrounds. It covers children from all backgrounds.
Joe
6:21 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
"Tell that to the Speed Camera Whiners...........
Most of them probably speak better English then you do. They grew up here and attended High School here. "
heheheheheh good one Steve, that made me chuckle good.
Joe
6:23 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Um Steve, "It covers children from all backgrounds"?
Who are the predominate illegal aliens here in the USA? Bulgarians?
Steve
9:38 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
The majority of foreign born Marylanders come from China
Joe
9:40 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
You made that up Steve or you got that form where? No link? OH MY!!! What a sin you just committed! A sin of your own making.
Steve
10:14 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Actually, my co worker corrected me. The El Salvadorans beat out the Chinese last year in the number who immigrated to Maryland.
Joe
10:24 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Steve, you need to be corrected more often than not with your made up nonsense.
Balt Observer
2:34 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Coworker? You actually have someone next to you there in Mom's basement, "Steve"? Or is he just imaginary?
Steve
2:40 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Heck no! I've got my own big ass office. I don't share a cubbyhole with anyone...
Balt Observer
3:13 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
LOL...just as I thought...imaginary.
Joe
3:25 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I bet that "office" has 2 porcelain fixtures in it.
Chillin
9:26 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Just another example of conflicting studies and how they can render the outcome that the study developers want to come out of their study. Don't place to much weight on any study. Just continue using your common sense and life experiences as your guide to predicting outcomes of any action. Studies are developed by college people who are afraid to get real jobs and simply cling onto the college atmosphere to at least pretend that they're productive citizens.
Steve
1:42 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Looks like the Haters are running scared. They think the are going to lose this battle because of "disorganization."
http://www.alipac.us/content/important-illegal-immigration-battles-maryland-montana-election-day-1029/
Jimmy
9:36 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
The article states "that by increasing educational attainment, the DREAM Act will increase lifetime earnings of beneficiaries, as well as tax revenues."
That's all well and good, but what's to say these people stay in the country, let alone the state after they get this great American education?
Chillin
9:41 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
Conservative thinking people, or as I like to call them/ me ' realist thinking people' are often confused with being a hateful people. This is a mis-judgement on the part of the liberals/ progressives who believe all social problems can be solved with a great big group hug.
Christopher Kidwell
3:07 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
No, conservatives are NOT realists. They are usually living in some PCP-induced dream/nightmare world where anyone with non-white skin is the 'enemy' and the problem is with all the dirty poor people who are taking government social assistance programs and 'bankrupting' them.
It's bullshit. The true thing that is bankrupting America is the rich and corporations getting out of their responsibility to help support America by paying their fair share in taxes, which is MUCH more than a person making poverty-level wages or even middle-class wages should be paying, because they get so infinitely much more out of being in America.
To wit: platinum insurance plans that keep them alive even if they have to have quadruple bypass surgery. Extremely safe and tasty high end foods like caviar on a daily basis. Very easy 'work' to do (shuffling papers, mainly for the rich). Expensive cars. Etc. etc. etc.
I could keep on going, but I think you get the point.
The rich need to stop whining when they have it better in America than almost anywhere else in the whole goddamned world. Period and done with: WHOLE GODDAMNED WORLD!
Same thing for corporations, who 2/3rds of them are paying NO taxes each year and/or getting money back from the federal government.
Joe
10:54 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
"conservatives are usually living in some PCP-induced dream/nightmare world"
"where anyone with non-white skin is the 'enemy'"
""conservativesare taking government social assistance programs and 'bankrupting' them."
"The true thing that is bankrupting America is the rich and corporations"
I never thought I could read so much utter nonsense in one comment. So much idiotic ignorant generalizations, so little truth. What a sycophant .
Christopher Kidwell
8:49 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Notice that you didn't take issue with what I said, Joe, you just attacked the teller once again.
Typical conservative playbook there: when you cannot argue with the statements, attack the stater.
Sassy
2:41 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
I thought I heard on the news that last year, caucasian americans born in this country were not the majority of births. Does anyone have an info on this?
Also, does anyone know what requirements an unamerican must make before becoming an american citizen? Why are they not doing this?
I'm worried there will be no social security for me when I retire when I've paid into all of my life. Why should I feel so happy about illegals getting freebies?
Christopher Kidwell
2:55 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Stop worrying. The only thing they have to do to totally fix SS forever is to remove the cap on SS taxed income from 125K and raise it to 250K.
People have been saying this SAME EXACT BULLSHIT since SS was first created. It's a lie, SS will ALWAYS be around unless you allow the Rethuglicans to bankrupt it and remove it.
Joe
10:55 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
"The only thing they have to do to totally fix SS forever is to remove the cap on SS taxed income from 125K and raise it to 250K."
Wow!!! Utter BS without any truth to it. If it was that easy it would have been fixed by now.
Joe
10:57 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Don't forget, SS is NOW being underfunded and putting it further and further in the red ink and deeper and deeper in unfunded liabilities. Thanks Barry for screwing even further the SS problems by underfunding it today.
Christopher Kidwell
8:50 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
No, SS isn't being underfunded. The only thing SS is funded with is SS taxes. If they are 'underfunded', that means that either SS taxes are too low OR the cap on SS taxed income is too low, as I stated.
I'm betting that it's a combination of both.
Steve
2:47 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
The aren't getting "freebies". They still have to pay tuition.
If the Republicans get their way there will be no Social Security anyway. The undocumented migrants are the only thing keeping it propped up as it is.
Christopher Kidwell
3:00 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Call me on this if I am wrong, but I thought that Undocumented usually equals working under the table and getting paid in cash, so how are they 'keeping SS propped up'?
No, if anything, by making those undocumented people LEGAL they would start paying into SS and it would be in an even better situation than it is at the moment.
Really, we need to rethink our immigration laws. People keep on saying "We cannot afford to let all these immigrants come here!" Bullshit. Those immigrants, by taking jobs at low wages, keep other prices low.
Get rid of all of the immigrants, expect to see prices in your local Wal-Mart rise by 200 to 300 percent.
Just allow all the immigrants to come here within a year of applying (perhaps longer for Muslim immigrants from Middle Eastern nations who might be terrorists) and move on.
Illegal immigration problem solved.
I cannot blame illegal immigrants for coming here illegally to get a better life than they can have in their country of birth.
amdactivist
11:09 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
As a democrat i'm calling you out on this steve. Your so wrong.. Obama the democrat is the one that took $716 billion out of medicare for our seniors who now as of oct 1 will be paying much more out of pocket expense..pointing out that its not always republican blunders. Md has been a liberal democrat state as long as i can remember and we are now one of the worst in the country. 4th highest taxed state. #48 for job creation. #2 in food stamp fraud. $2billio a year is outrageous and goes to illegal aliens. Baltimore city is #7 in our country for crime and i can go on and on..
As a senior democrat I will do all in my power to expose the corruption and greed under democrat rule.. I will lean far right in november since they seem to be the only ones at this time in history with any common sense.. if it weren't for illegal aliens who work any dang place they want while on welfare food stamps and all its freebies maryland would be showing a huge surplus.. Now that omalley wants to be president in 2016 he needs md to show a surplus so he taxes the hell out of our taxpaying citizens, not illegals, show he can show a surplus in 2016.. Enjoy the high cost of taxes, camera scams, food, energy and gas costs etc. Remember why they so high..
DARRELL HAMMERBACKER
8:00 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
There won't be any SS because the Democrats keep taking from it like the Idiot Democrats in Annapolis keep taking from the Transportation and Rainy Day Funds.And by the way if they're illegal they are not entitled,and I'm tired of paying for Anchor Babies,especially when they have over 1 of them.It's time to take care of our Seniors and OUR PEOPLE!!! PERIOD!!!
Christopher Kidwell
2:53 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Wrong. The only thing that needs to be done to make SS totally solvent FOREVER is to double the SS taxed income limitation, which is only about 125K right now.
To make it solvent AND to expand Medicare into a nationalized insurance plan like the U.K. has? All you have to do is to remove the cap on SS taxed income totally.
Steve
7:47 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Here you go CK
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html
Romney/Ryan couldn't give a Fat Crap about Senior Citizens. That is why they are going to can Medicare. The more that die out the better according to them.
amdactivist
8:34 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve, where in the world you get ur info from? Ryan proposed a great bipartisan budget regarding our seniors medicare.. It will not affect our seniors now but will help protect the next generations to have medicare and social security. Obama is the one that took $716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE AND OUR SENIORS and now as of oct1, 2012 seniors will be forced to pay more $$ for their health care. And also , if your in the hospital and hospital releases the senior and the senior has to be re enter the hospital within 30 days the HOSPITALS WILL PAY A FINE. Now many hospitals are saying they won't take medicare.
http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+took+%24716+billion+from+medicare&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA_en
amdactivist
8:39 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Question 4
Referendum Petition
Public Institutions of Higher Education – Tuition Rates (Ch. 191 of the 2011 Legislative Session)Establishes that individuals, including undocumented immigrants, are eligible to pay in-state tuition rates at community colleges in Maryland, provided the student meets certain conditions relating to attendance and graduation from a Maryland high school, filing of income taxes, intent to apply for permanent residency, and registration with the selective service system (if required); makes such students eligible to pay in-state tuition rates at a four-year public college or university if the student has first completed 60 credit hours or graduated from a community college in Maryland; provides that students qualifying for in-state tuition rates by this method will not be counted as in-state students for purposes of counting undergraduate enrollment; and extends the time in which honorably discharged veterans may qualify for in-state tuition rates.
vote NO AND SAVE MILLIONS OF TAX $$
Christopher Kidwell
8:52 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Sorry, but I am voting yes to bring some fairness to this. If you are not willing to pay people wages that they can pay their own way to college, then I have no problem with the state doing it's part to get them to college if they wish to go.
amdactivist
8:50 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve..Dan Rodricks can't get a paying job. He's a blogger liberal with absolutely no common sense and the sunpapers are so desperate for any kind of story just to hang on to their failing paper.
amdactivist
8:55 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve,, Are you aware that illegal aliens pay very little if any taxes when they work? They claim many dependants they don't have and resulting in getting earned income and other credits for having children.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317
http://foxbaltimore.com/newsroom/features/waste_watch/videos/vid_38.shtml
Christopher Kidwell
8:53 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Bullshit. They do audits on dependents, especially if you claim more than 5 for a family. There is no way that they are claiming 'dependents they don't have' in the slightest.
More like they are claiming all their children and you are butthurt because they know how to use the system as it was meant to be used.
Steve
12:10 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Grandma , you are right in Ryan's crosshairs. If he has his way you'll be out picking scraps somewhere just to survive.
FAIR is part of the Tanton Hate Cult. Their numbers are total fabrications.
..........and that whole "I'm a Democrat" schtick is wearing a little thin. You are no more a Democrat then David Duke.
amdactivist
1:21 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve,, your typical name calling democrat. yes i am a democrat but surely not your grandma. If i had grandchildren they would be respectful and capable of conversation. You are not.. enjoy Fair and tanton hate cult all you want.. your rants and raves don't justify your stupidities..
JD1
2:36 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Sure she is....love this failed democratic strategy of telling lies to instill fear and serving up the kool aid to the poor and ignorant. Those poor city folk are so hell bent on keeping their pseudo savior in office, they don't realize how they are being exploited.
Steve
1:23 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
It's amazing that in this day and age old scared white people would rather end up eating cat food than vote for the Black Guy...........
Joe
1:50 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Is there ANYTHING vile bigoted and ignorant you won't type?
JD1
2:01 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve you are a race baiting tool. Race would stop being an issue if idiots like you would stop bringing it up.
JD1
2:38 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
It's also amazing how Obama is cashing in on the fact that most African Americans will vote for him regardless of how failed his policies are - who are he real racists here?
amdactivist
8:37 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
it seems like the black guys don't wanna vote for the black guy.. Why aren't you voting for romney? Cause your a racist?
Colin Powell for Romney
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/08/10/colin-powell-gives-romney-good-grades-he-demonstrated-he-can-particip
Allen West for Romney
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82117.html
Artur Davis For Romney
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2012/August/Fmr-Obama-Supporter-Artur-Davis-Stumps-for-Romney-/
Condoleza rice is for Romney .. I guess you missed the best speech of the night ..
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/07/13/condoleezza-rice-as-romney-running-mate-would-be-2012-game-changer/
Actress Stacy Dash was subjected to abuse by the black community for her stance on romney.. Thats racism at its best.
YOu see steve. Most people move on with their lives and learn to love one another in a mutual mannerly way not go back in time to slavery and ownership. Get over it.. its gone.. People like you thrive on misery. We're all God's children.. Not racist. Of course there are a few idiots still harp on it but we have good and bath in all races.. Which course you heading.. Stop looking at people's color but look into their goals, achievements and remember that none of us can control who we look like or who we are. Are you aware that many of us have both black and white blood in our system? tp://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/do_black_people_support_obama.html
Christopher Kidwell
8:54 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Joe, Steve's statement about the cat food is true. When we had Republicans in office, we had seniors having to do that. Now, with Democrat-passed social support programs in place, they don't have to do that anymore.
Balt Observer
3:06 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Good old "Stank"/"Mitchum". A day isn't complete until he brings some quality hatred down with him in Mom's basement.
Steve
5:04 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Who in their right mind would vote for Mitt the Mexican and Boy Blunder?
The President doesn't have any failed policies and fortunately African Americans are smart enough to see through that. That's why Mittens is polling at ZERO with the African American community.
Balt Observer
5:50 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
I get the sense that old "Stank"/"Mitchum" is going to drown in a river of tears down in Mom's basement after Romney evicts the huckster this November.
Neal Baker
7:50 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
The President doesn't have any failed policies? You have been sniffing Rachel Madow's undies a bit much there Steve-O. How about his "Green" energy investments? Solyndra goes bankrupt after Barry gives them millions and the Volt battery maker lays off hundreds.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-many-chevy-volt-batteries-will-150-million-make-hint-less-than-one/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/11/another-bankrupt-solar-firm-facing-scrutiny-from-lawmakers-investigators/
Ignore the facts, drink the kool aid.
Christopher Kidwell
8:56 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Neal Baker, there is a difference between a failed policy and one failed company. The former does not equate to the latter.
Obama's investments in solar energy and green energy didn't just 'disappear' like the Rethuglicans wish you to think they did. Solyndra's technology is still out there AND if the Chinese had been playing the game fairly, Solyndra would still be in business.
But what did China do? Sold their solar panels and other things at a loss to drive American companies out of business so that they could corner the market and jack up prices.
amdactivist
7:32 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
this is for the obama supporters
the first one is an obama add against romney.. the 2nd link is the response from 500 ohio coalminers that said obama lied.. Again!! Obama said 4 years ago that "lies win elections".. He was caught again!! When will his supporters wake up and listen to other good no nonsense reporters..
Here is a link for a 32 sec. Ad Obama put out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GBGIFdahSo
And here is the link that tells the truth about the ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzU3oZLV8Hw&feature=share
Neal Baker
7:45 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Every person that benefits from the dream act is a democrat, this being a true blue democratic state, the dream act will pass. That means the citizens of EVERY county but Prince Georges, Montgomery and Baltimore city will be voting against it and we will all be paying for it. What part of "illegal" don't you understand?
amdactivist
8:07 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Neal. You forgot to mention a few hundred other obama failures.. His latest cost more deaths. This idiot in charge cost more lives then any president. BTW he has outdone Bush's faults 3-1.. The ambassadors that were tortured, raped and brutally murdered is all on obama and instead of responding he goes on letterman and the view. There were 230 threats and attacks at the embassy and in the passed 5 months 2 bombings.. They begged for more security and obama said no. He also cut back on our troops defense and now we losing too many of our soldiers. His only agenda is to seize, control and destroy and he's made good on his threats..Let the pathetic illiterate obama supporting fools fend for themselves with their food stamps and welfare checks living in poverty and filth.. Their families will hate them for it..
Christopher Kidwell
8:58 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
No, he hasn't. Need I remind that Obama has had 4 people killed in an unconfirmed terrorist attack while Bush had 5K+ killed in a CONFIRMED terrorist attack.
Outdone Bush's faults 3-1? Only in a PCP-induced nightmare land that only exists in your insane mind.
1ke
8:38 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Amd, you are not the gold standard of literacy. Drama Queen.
1ke
8:43 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
And old pistol packing JD1. . . I agree with you, buddy. Don't shoot or give me a sidewalk sandwich. Watch it, Steve. And Karl. No Karl, not the lumpen proletariat! Make 'em back up off of me!
JD1
10:21 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Got a few new ones - I've been feeling inadequate
amdactivist
9:18 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
chris.. your in lala land.. what about all the border patrol killed and the last 3 ambassadors thats hidden from obama media. What about fast and furious coverup from obama giving weapons to gangs at the border? also bush left obama a $1.1 trillion debt.. now $16 trillion.. Gas was $1.87 now almost $4.00 and up to $6.00 in california yet obama turned down the keystone pipeline. what about solyndra.. Billions to a company that goes bankrupt a couple months later. He is a never ending nightmare and dumb as S...!!
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/01/493849/obama-bush-jobs-record/?mobile=nc
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/22/bush-tax-cuts-vs-obama-stimulus/
this is not the change we wanted.. and if you think we better off today then 4 years ago your a day late and dollar short of a membrane...
Steve
10:29 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
The Border Patrol killed themselves in a friendly fire incident Grandma.
"FAst and Pffft." was a Republican Witch Hunt that went nowhere.
Christopher Kidwell
12:32 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
Agreed, Steve. Fast and Furious was a Republican Witch Hunt and a program first conceived while BUSH WAS IN OFFICE that was an extremely bad idea, but that I'm pretty sure Obama didn't know about until it was flashed across every TV station in America.
amdactivist
9:28 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
chris.. So you justify solyndra with what again? Why did obama who is the china queenie give a $5.7 billion bridge job to china? http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=81550
Chris so me stats showing we better off with obama then romney or with Bush.. Are we better off today? Look where some of Md stimulus $$ went to stimulate the economy and tell me what happened to the omnibus bs that he promised no pork..
http://citypaper.com/news/following-the-money-1.1080499
Christopher Kidwell
12:33 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
Big deal. It's a Chinese firm hiring people in America and building in America. My bet is that they are going to be watched like hawks to make sure that they build the bridges right.
amdactivist
9:33 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
chris did u say that seniors not eating cat food under obama thumb and that they did under democrat rule? Omg this is the funniest thing i've heard in a long time.. You and steve twins? You both think alike. or you both related to this one> .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio&feature=player_embedded
Christopher Kidwell
12:34 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
They do not have to do that anymore, amdactivist. Judging by your punctuation and capitalization issues as well, I'm beginning to think that you are a troll.
amdactivist
9:36 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Steve you said your voting for Dream act and let the state pay for it.. Where does the state get the money?
Steve
10:32 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
It doesn't cost the state anything.
1ke
6:54 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
Woke up and knew I had finally found the solution! JD1 and the Real Steve , I would vote for either one of you for President of the United States. "Surely, you jest!" you say. Nope. And here is why:
1. I am sick and tired of being represented by millionnaires and gazillionnaires. They just do not understand what my acquaintances, friends, and family have been through and look forward to.
2. Everybody who wins an election ultimately picks their advisors from among the same group of politically engaged academics, you know, EDUCATED EXPERTS anyway. Sorry Joe and amdactivist.
3. People who wind up being President get shaped, molded, maybe ruined by its demands. You don't believe it? Look at before and after pictures to see how the job tears older men up. Look ay Ronald Reagan. Shot, two operations, and Alzheimers:the Triple Crown.
4. Presidents hear the real story from everybody who really needs things. Responsible people try to do what's right and in the case of the President it always works out to be the greatest good for the greatest number. You are both responsible people who consistently say the same thing--hey, occasionally over and over--but being inconsistent is a serious danger signal
4. The crimes of everyday people are stupid and of no historic consequence. They are easily detected and easily punished. Give me a guy with no track record of crookedness.
I read a lot, but you will not hear a lot from me. But if you need a campaign manager...
amdactivist
7:01 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
so Obama came into the white house with about $3million and he just purchased a $40 million hawaiian mansion cash is not one of dem rich guys? And you would support people that cares more about a person's punctuation then the state of our country? shame.
amdactivist
7:03 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/
1ke
8:32 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
Obama is a multimillionaire, a gazillionaire in the making. Obviously, fractious man. You make it sound like he brought the $40,000,000 in a suitcase. Drama, man, get up off it.
amdactivist
8:43 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
Obama went to the Wh with about $3 million or so. How does he pay cash for a mansion in hawaii? Although i think obama is our worst, he is not alone.. Others went in middle class and come out filthy rich. Guess who's $$? Ike.. what does DRAMA mean?
1ke
9:12 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
The notion that the man paid $40 million cash for a house is hard to entertain unless one is wrapped up in a drama. Is this really, you think, how rich people buy things? Get up off it.