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Proposed Bel Air Walmart Site Plan Released

Some members of the Bel Air community are rallying in opposition of Walmart's proposed move to Bel Air.

A meeting seeking community input on a proposed 185,706 sq. ft. is scheduled to take place next week and some members of the community are already voicing opposition to the project.

Advertising for the meeting, scheduled to take place July 19 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at , was originally printed in The Aegis before Harford County Planning and Zoning was aware of it.

The meeting has since been announced on the county's web site along with a proposed site plan, which you can find attached to this article.

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The plan outlines a 185,706 sq. ft. building at the southwest corner of the intersection of Plumtree Road and Emmorton Road, or MD Route 924. It also includes a proposed extension of Blue Spruce Drive and several acres designated for future development. The front of the building would face away from Plumtree Road toward a parking lot about the same size as the building.

"The purpose of this meeting is for the Applicant to provide information to the community regarding the proposed commercial development (including draft plans for the site layout), and to allow citizens to ask questions and make comments and suggestions," the legal ad states.

In March of 2011, Walmart representatives told Patch the chain was considering to the 33.7-acre lot.

Based on preliminary discussions, Walmart plans to build a superstore at the new location and sell the current building located in , a Walmart employee told Patch last year.

It remains unclear whether closing the Abingdon store is part of the current plan. In addition to the Abingdon store, there are also Harford County Walmart locations in Aberdeen and Fallston.

The plan for the Bel Air location was met with backlash from the community at back in 2011, with residents along the Route 924 corridor holding meetings and expressing opposition to .

The opposition base remains strong against Walmart, with one online petition gaining 400 signatures.

There is also a video on YouTube.com called "Stop Walmart Bel Air" which includes musical lyrics that oppose Walmart in a small town. The video is also attached to this article.

Does Harford County need another Walmart? Leave a comment.

Richard S*****r July 17, 2012 at 09:16 PM
What is considered to be the "neighborhood"? This is an honest question. Is their a per mile radius, etc?
Aaron July 17, 2012 at 10:28 PM
The neighborhood is Bel Air South which includes residential and business establishments. It's also where I live and shop. I now find myself making strategic plans of what roads to take or not take depending on what time of the day I'm traveling. I remember the first time I saw Camden Yards and thought this stadium feels like it has always been here. It fit into the neighborhood so well. Then I look at the plans for the Super Walmart and I see just the opposite. I see a cold warehouse store with a mega parking lot that will cause a mega traffic jam from November to December.
Richard S*****r July 17, 2012 at 11:00 PM
That traffic jam will be there whether Wal Mart is in that location or not. That is a the problem of procrastination on part of the Holiday shoppers. Welcome to Bel Air and its 3 Main roads used to get to Bel Air from the I95 Corridor. Again your trying to blame a "problem" that already exists because of other reasons on a Wal Mart that hasn't been built. A cold warehouse with a mega parking lot. You describing The Festival at Bel Air right? Your traffic jam from November to December is because we have bought into the idea of buying stuff we don't need for people who don't need it during those months of the year. I am all for giving gifts but I have learned to do my shopping a little sooner so I don't have to include my self in the insanity you find during those months. I would have never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes, two old ladies punching it out over an Tickle me elmo...
Richard S*****r July 17, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Ok so by that definition you already have a Wal Mart in your Neighborhood. Why such a big deal if you get a new one that looks modern, cleaner, updated, that is in a different location within your Neighborhood? One by the way that will be hiring before it opens up for your teenagers in your neighborhood who can use a job.
Richard S*****r July 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM
I personally would like to see a conceptual drawing before I decide what it is going to look like.
Take Responsibility! July 18, 2012 at 01:44 AM
I'm glad I live in Jarrettsville and don't have to deal with any of this crap. I remember riding my bike, when I was 10 years old and lived in Bright Oaks back in '77. I used to ride my bike up to 924 which I think was just 24 back then. I would make a left and we'd go fishing in ponds. Those ponds were located where The Festival s parking lot, and the "new" 24 are now. Things are always changing, and not always for the good. I bet just as many people are ecstatic that a new ChinaMart will be built there.
Ed. Miller July 18, 2012 at 06:32 AM
They had these same arguments when Edgar Durham sold his farm which is now the Tollgate Shopping Center, Red Lobster and Outback. Also when they tore down the Race Track and built Harford Mall. People went nuts and said you would never be able to drive down Tollgate Road again. We lived through that and will do the same with the new Wallmart. Change is had to accept. Bel Air is growing, and will continue to grow, so just accept it and get over it.
Aaron July 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM
No doubt with every piece of land sold to developers there will be protests about the negative change it will have on the community. Where I live was once a farm and chances are where you live was once a farm. Same thing happened to Baltimore County where I grew up. They built and built until I said I don’t want to live there anymore. I see a lot of people from Harford county moving into PA where it’s less crowded and many people moving into Harford county from NJ and NY because we are less crowded. I understand this is the flow of things. We have one question to ask ourselves; at what point does Bel Air loose its charm? To paraphrase Yogi Berra, “This place is always so crowded that’s why no one comes here anymore”.
Common Sense July 18, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Walmart is different it draws people from other areas to buy their cheap china produced products. A grocery store for example supplies groceries usually to the community surrounding the grocery store but Walmart brings massive amounts of people from everywhere. We don't need the extra traffic in this area they should stay close to the I-95 exit. The Hess Family should renegotiate their contract. Look at the flash mob that happened in a Jacksonville Florida Walmart on Saturday. http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-17/story/saturday-night-flash-mob-takes-over-jacksonville-walmart
OldHarfordCounty July 18, 2012 at 02:10 PM
If you leave, they won't build it Once again, I am firm believer that there is an easy solution to this issue: Wal-Mart is only coming because so many people relocated here. Make Harford Quaint Again. If you got here after 1969 please vacate so we can have our county back. It was nice back then. Think of all the green space there would be for exercise, the lack of car fumes. Even getting to Patterson Mill High School will be easier, since we won't need it. Bel Air Parkway South can go back to being a dead end road.
Karl Schuub July 18, 2012 at 02:44 PM
They're coming for you next. It's like a frog in the boiling water - the slow creep of supposed progress. Fallston fights it tooth and nail and yet, we've now got a Walmart in Fallston, they've taken a corn field and turned it into a CVS and another MacDonalds - thank god another one; because you just can't go without a nasty fast food joint on every corner. They'll sell you on convenience and inevitable and then when it's half ruined will tell you we already have developement here so they'll expand the developement envelope. It's a self-fulfilling activity where you allow for more and more exceptions to developemental restrictions and then when you have enough exceptions proclaim the need for more roads, etc. and townhouses out the wazoo. Fallston will fall first, but you're only 10-15 years behind or a road improvement away in Jarrettsville. My point is sitting and thanking your lucky stars it's not you only means a delay. I am my brothers keeper and those people unlucky enough to live in the vicinity of that mess on 24/924 need our support.
OldHarfordCounty July 18, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Bel Air lost it's charm about 1977.
Richard S*****r July 18, 2012 at 05:12 PM
I don't think Bel Air has lost its charm, but I think they charm that you are referring to is different then the charm that I know. It is a generational opinion. I am assuming each of you are from a different generation that I am. Thus our differences in opinions and ideas of what the charm of Bel Air is.
Take Responsibility! July 18, 2012 at 05:40 PM
You could always leave, especially since you don't fit into the mold of welcoming, neighborly people that started this community ;)
jc July 18, 2012 at 08:07 PM
I find it funny that people coming of new businesses coming to the area... Why did YOU come here? Becuase it was cheaper, more land? less people? Probably all of the above. When everyone has the same ideas, more people move here. More people, means more businesses. Its simple math people. Cecil County will be the next Harford Co, like it was in the 80's.
Richard S*****r July 18, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Precisely.
OldHarfordCounty July 18, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Come on Take R, I was, and sometimes am the welcoming kind. I just get sarcastic at the newbies we welcomed in the 80's and 90's wanting to stop the growth without realizing that they themselves are the growth they complain about. Heck, some of these people have been in the county less than 5 years and the start complaining. That being said, I would not mind a return of Tom Sawyer Days on Main St.,
Take Responsibility! July 19, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Ahhh, gotcha!
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Thus why I don't complain, but that doesn't mean I wont point out issues etc. Sorry I can't vacate either. I grew up here, bought a house here, and now I must remain here until my house value is somewhat close to what I owe on it :(
jennifer allen July 19, 2012 at 03:08 PM
924 cannot handle all the traffic. Its already congested as it is. Walmart will just make it worse.
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 03:22 PM
I claim no superiority and I completely understand the concept of community planning etc. Fact is for years and years now housing developments have requred "green spaces" in every single one of them. Obviously this section of land wasn't considered part of the "community". So I am pointing out that your argument should be directed at who is in control over creating and enforcing those "codes" or requirements. You can't blame Wal Mart for that. I view things from a different perspective. If Wal Mart is itching so bad to expand to a super center then I believe it is because there isn't enough places to shop, or obviously they wouldn't want to do this so bad. I hardly believe they would spends millions and millions of dollars on something that isn't going to make them money. It will make them money because everyone here will shop there at some point if not repeatedly every week. I am choosing to be realistic in my thoughts and arguments. If I honestly believed that the majority of this community was against, and I mean REALLY against it then I would change my opinions. But so far I don't see any real opposition except for the usual "your endangering peoples lives" Traffic will be a nightmare", its bad for business" etc. Which really doesn't have any evidence and proof behind it, just emotion and reaction to the news.
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 03:22 PM
I am wholeheartedly hoping that support rallies against this if you believe it will kill your community. What we are seeing now is a failure to plan many years ago. We can only plan for the future and it seems that parcel of land is destined to be developed at some point.
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 03:25 PM
I don't decide what is a mute point, I just pointed out that the arguments that the opposition has brought up will be laughed at by our illustrious government because it is the same argument that is used every time something like this is happening. And because of that Wal Mart already has a check list of answers used to refute them. Thus my challenge to do better! Community planning is a good argument but in this case it is a day late and dollar short.
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 03:31 PM
I commend your spirit in the matter, but I think we created Wal Mart because we wanted lower prices. We are the reason this monster exists, because we want more for less. Wal Mart just happens to be the business that capitalized on that way of thinking and they did it so well they are now the biggest corporation in the world.
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 04:01 PM
And to complicate the matter even farther I am forced to shop at Wal Mart because I can't afford to shop at certain places because me the average citizen carries more and more tax burden thanks to this great provider we call the government.... I used to enjoy Directv, Netflix, a night out at the movies, etc. I don't have any of those anymore. If I want to watch a movie I have to visit a redbox etc. Why because 80 percent of my wife's paycheck goes to the Mortgage, 2 car payments, utilities, taxes, healthcare, groceries, tithe/charity, GAS, and the occasional visit to Red Robin. Personally I don't get a paycheck. My business is new and still growing. Every penny made goes back into the business at this point.
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 04:03 PM
I think we should be more upset at this http://www.baltimoresun.com/explore/harford/news/ph-ag-route22-intersections-0629-20120627,0,7769756,full.story instead of Wal Mart building on a parcel already surrounded by other businesses.
jennifer allen July 19, 2012 at 04:08 PM
There goes the neighborhood! This Walmart will bring the housing values down in an already poor market. Good Luck with anyone trying to sell their house! The only good thing that isn't going to change is the fact that Bel Air has great schools!
Richard S*****r July 19, 2012 at 08:55 PM
Please show some evidence that Wal Mart causes home values to go down. Is this another reference to Wal Mart only attracting the filth of the earth to shop there? If so I will read between the lines of your comment to see you wish not to associate yourself with us lesser class people.
BACitizen August 01, 2012 at 06:40 PM
The property on Plumtree was rezoned some years ago. At that time people had the opportunity to dispute the rezoning. Walmart wouldn't be an issue now if they had disputed the rezoning. Walmart has the room to expand at their current location but are prohibited because of a covenant that doesn't expire until 2018. The covenant was put in by the owner of the Weis Store that is no longer open at that location. I believe the Weis store owner has been approached about voiding that covenant but has refused to do so. I also oppose the Walmart at Plumtree for numerous reasons. I believe that a number of the County Council oppose this location also but are unable to voice their opinion because of certain laws & regulations. Also the County Council does NOT receive any compensation from Walmart or any other entity. Yes Walmart sells mostly cheap goods made in other countries. This is mostly due to NAFTA that was signed into effect by Bill Clinton in 1992 during his 2nd term in office. American garment makers & other industries couldn't compete with the slave labor practicies of China & other countries. Thus American companies were closed & millions of jobs were lost. These are FACTS & not made up ideas because I oppose the relocation of Wamart. Do a little research & you might get to the real truth. We voted in our officials & I think most of them try to do what's best for our community. But sometimes their hands are tied by laws, regulations & higher-ups.
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