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Walmart Manager: Abingdon Store Could Move Next Year

Store representatives recently met with county officials.

Walmart representatives are eyeing a move for their Abingdon store to the intersection of Maryland Route 924 and Plumtree Road by next year, an assistant store manager told Patch. Discussions are preliminary, but employees already met with their market manager about transitioning to a superstore.

“He [the market manager] said nothing’s final yet,” said Rosali Sheets, an assistant manager. “The rumor is in 2012 we’ll be moving to [924 and Plumtree].”

Company representatives recently met with county officials, Harford County Planning and Zoning Director Pete Gutwald said. They held a "scoping meeting" to inquire about “a traffic impact study near the site at Plumtree next to the Festival,” he said.

“They came in to just establish the boundaries and requirements for a traffic study on that site. That’s the only thing they’ve done so far,” Gutwald said.

Although Sheets emphasized that nothing is finalized, she said a new building would be constructed.

“Everybody’s saying, ‘Yeah, we’re going.’ [But] nobody knows for sure,” said Sheets, adding that the existing building would be sold.

“It’s sort of in a preliminary phase,” Gutwald said. “They’re evaluating the cost and the requirement [to move], what it would cost to rebuild, what it would cost to expand on the existing site.”

Brad Gerick March 31, 2011 at 01:35 PM
I've uploaded a satellite image to give you a better idea of the area in its relation to Festival.
Frank March 31, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Let me get this straight. We are moving one of the 'culprits' of the Constant Friendship traffic bottleneck, to a more densely populated area closer to The Festival, which has its own congestion? And, by the way, Wegman's opens soon off Rt 924 (Constant Friendship), while the traffic pattern at the new Walmart on Rt 1 is yet to be 'ironed out'? What visionary came up with this scenario? I'll bet he/she does not live in the area. Yeah, I'm happy I don't commute anymore!
giggity March 31, 2011 at 01:57 PM
I love all the NIMBY folks! You guys are a riot! There isn't anything we can do to fight our big-box store overlords. I'm putting a couple plants in my old refrigerator now, then I'm burying it in the back yard.
Jean Tepelides March 31, 2011 at 08:22 PM
And so, what the building in Constant Friendship will be left empty??? That will be attractive...NOT!!
Conszeb March 31, 2011 at 09:12 PM
To anyone who lives in the rectangle bordered by Ring Factory, 24, Wheel Rd , and 924, this is a nightmare! The traffic is awful now, from Halloween to Christmas it is impassable. The county must say no! Why not build it in BoxHill where new box store develpment is happening?
BJMRamage March 31, 2011 at 09:12 PM
sucks for the new area. The CF walmart area was supposed to have an entrance/exit onto I-95 but that was fought by residents. The area was never supposed to be as filled as it is. the traffic there is horrendous for CF residents and anyone using that business park. The Rt 24 mess they have is a result of MD traffic "planning" not Harford Co as it is a State Roadway. (No idea about who planned the Rt 1 Walmart intersection area.) One thing Walmart needs to learn is how to design a parking lot. Every walmart parking lot i have ever been in (Try not to go there often) is a horrible mess and a preview of the store inside. There were brief rumors the CF target was leaving after the rebuild in Bel Air and the movies might switch to Weggman's. looko up city council meetings and any local gov't meetings you can attend or find out when this discussion will take place. if nobody shows to a meeting nothing can be done. but if you attend and keep the council there a long time the might rethink this as they really rather not be there too late.
michael ostendorf March 31, 2011 at 11:20 PM
When I think about the whole thing I wonder if it is a April Fools Stunt
Red Harford April 01, 2011 at 02:04 AM
City? what city? We live in a county. If it upsets you so bad, buy the ground. I laugh, all of you live in what was once some of the most productive farm land in the County. What a crisis! Let's shut down all commerce in the name of those who have here most recently. Lift the bridge, I am across!
Cindy Mendoza April 01, 2011 at 04:45 AM
We sure do not need any more Walmarts anywhere!!! They just hurt all the small stores, that really are better to shop at. At least you get customer service there. Same with Wegman's. Do we need more grocery stores, especially the big ones. I say go back to small grocery stores. Also, the traffic is already bad in Abingdon and Belair.
Richard Smith April 04, 2011 at 04:39 AM
The plot was rezoned from residential to commercial with no opposition just a couple of years ago. That means it is a done deal..... Protests should have happened THEN.
Jessica Lamoureux April 04, 2011 at 12:44 PM
The fact that the land is zoned commercial is fine with me. It also sounds like there are plenty of OTHER commercial businesses looking at the property along with Wal-Mart. In my opinion, a Wal-Mart type store OR a big grocery store will have a huge negative impact on this area. They would bring too many people up this road. If it has to be commercial, I hope it stays on a smaller scale. And to those that think you cannot fight this....don't. Sit home on your butt and let the people who care enough to fight do it. But don't put all your negative comments out there to deter others from getting involved. Anything can be fought....EVEN WAL-MART.
Jim Whipp April 05, 2011 at 03:19 AM
Mr. Smith, respectfully you are naive to think the community has no input as to the development of one of the last large pieces of real estate along the 24 development envelope. Once this monster store is built and the problems mount, it's too late. Now is the time for the community to come together and stop something that does not fit into the current mix. The last piece of this commercial zone will be determined by the community. Frankly, this is the drawback of developing last. The first people to sell/develop their land got an advantage...the last developments will always be under more scrutiny. This is an established area, there will be community pushback.
Brett Huntington April 08, 2011 at 12:20 AM
The proposed move of putting a Walmart at the Plumtree/924 Intersection is a HORRIBLE IDEA, let alone a Super Walmart!...are you kidding me?! Here are two facts about Walmarts when put in residential areas: 1) Create MAJOR traffic congestion Go to http://www.sprawl-busters.com/search.php?readstory=529 In addition to a Middle/High School, there is a Nursing Home, Children Daycares and a residential area, in which I reside with my family. 924 is over-congested without a Walmart coming in. Its just common sense, traffic is bottlenecked enough as it is now. 2) Walmarts Increase Crime Risk. National Studies done have even shown that reported police incidents for each Walmart store was 400 to 1000 percent higher than the average rate for the nearest Target Store. Bottom line, do we want this kind of increased risk in a residential area with a school nearby, NO! Go to this article to read more about crime and Walmart http://www.austinfullcircle.org/WalmartCrimeReport.pdf
Melissa B. May 05, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Why must we tear down every friggin tree in Harford County? Harford county use to be so beautiful now it is becoming another dirty city! SO SAD!
Kai May 25, 2011 at 12:04 AM
http://www.harfordcountymd.gov/council/ Let your council members know you don't want Wal-Mart turning 924 into another widened road for yet more traffic. Walmart brings crime and takes away from local businesses. Contact Council Member Joseph M. Woods District B 410-638-3520 jmwoods@harfordcountymd.gov Contact the Council President "Billy" Boniface 410-638-3525 wkboniface@harfordcountymd.gov
helpussomeone May 25, 2011 at 10:42 AM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/No-Bel-Air-Walmart/ Here is an online petition opposing the Plumtree Walmart. Please consider signing it. Also, please find and join the "Bel Air South Community Foundation" Facebook group for more information on how you can help keep Walmart out of our community. And please, pass it on!! Thank you in advance!
Aaron May 31, 2011 at 01:17 AM
Traffic is already bad on 924 heading to Bel Air. How can we make it worse? I know let's build a Walmart Superstore and bring to a stand still. This past year we received a robo-call about gridlocked shopping traffic at the 924/24 intersection. Now I can see getting robo-calls warning of the gridlocked traffic on 924 and Plumetree. Some of us would like to get home in less than two hours.
joe June 20, 2011 at 12:39 AM
You really want to stop them??? Stop shopping there. Tell your friends/neighbors and the such. If they see a continual decrese in revenue they wont even consider moving they may just pack up and leave......
EVELYN MARKS June 20, 2011 at 02:52 PM
This is the most disturbing thing I have ever heard. The people don't want another Walmart. What's wrong with keeping the old one? The roads in Harford County, expecially Bel Air, just can't take any more traffic. Who's bright idea was this and who is getting the benefits of putting up this new Walmart, certainly not the people of Bel Air. Why arn't the people of Bel Air not the least bit in control of what's planned for our town? What and who is honest enough to advise us what to do to prevent this. There must be a way for the towns people to get their way in something.
Gary June 20, 2011 at 09:44 PM
I have been in HARFORD county since the 70's and have seen the whole transition take place. People move into new housing in the development envelope without researching the future plans of the county and then when the stores start to build based on the increased residential market, everyone is shocked and amazed that it is in their back yard. No matter how much you scream, holler, jump up and down or otherwise complain, you are going to get a shopping center at that location. If it ain't Walmart it might be a Home Depot or some other combination of commercial development. I'm not saying that community input isn't effective, but you can't wait until everything is already in place for the developers and then expect some sort of action. Short of buying the land there is not much that can be done at this point. O Thankfully the property on the other side of the festival will not be developed.
mike taylor June 21, 2011 at 12:41 PM
I live behind the Festival at Bel Air and I know how bad traffic is in the area. The County Planners know how bad the problem is presently, without a Wal-Mart, which is why they have funded $750,000 in the budget to install a roundabout at Bel Air South Parkway in front of the Arby's and High's Stores. I don't see how a roundabout will help the problems especially at the intersection of Bel Air South Parkway and 924 and adding a Wal-Mart will only make the problem worse. The traffic study is being funded by Wal-Mart for Wal-Mart and they will do all they can to fudge the numbers in their favor. I understand that Wal-Mart would like to stay at their present location but their Deed prohibits them from selling groceries until 2018. Why are Target and BJ's allowed to sell groceries in that complex? I believe that they want to move because that location has many traffic problems due to it's one road in and out which during the holidays or during an emergency have had shoppers trapped for hours. This only shows how the County Planners and Engineers cannot be trusted with their planning and studies and we must band together and do all we can to stop this frivolous move of Wal-Mart from their present location to a location 3 miles away and all future development frivolities. The State of Maryland has a Smart Growth Development Policy not a Stupid Growth Policy.
Brad Gerick October 03, 2011 at 04:10 PM
I have an update for you on this story. http://patch.com/A-m6Ll -BG
Vic April 13, 2012 at 07:52 PM
U THink. Say Helooo SAMS CLUB
Vic April 13, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Will there be any small businesses left here. Only WAWA, ROYAL FARMS, CVS, RITEAID AND WALMART 1,2,3. MONEY GOES TO OTHER STATES--->
Karl Schuub April 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I'll tell you exactly how to kill it...don't shop near there. We are the ones targeted...when only local communities care about only the sprawl that effects them they will continue with this license to sprawl. Communitywide moratorium...published and effective; pick a day and don't even shop the Klein's there. If the message isn't loud and clear do it a second day. Trust me those local merchants already there will start to make some calls. Don't shop there they won't build; don't shop there and they're already there they'll move.
Karl Schuub April 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM
And secondly don't care how the city/county "fathers" have zoned this. Don't be a horse led around by the nose. If they didn't think everybody would flock to a certain location out of convenience they wouldn't move there. The folks in Forest Hill fought the discount store up there to no avail. Every time I go by the parking lot is full. Want to save your neighborhood; shop only in areas where there are already stores...might take you a couple minutes more but isn't it worth it? Of course it is...
Monica April 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM
There just can't be enough Wal-Marts. Keep building!!
Amy McClure April 21, 2012 at 02:22 AM
So true!
Chase Imbatman Adams July 07, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I was told that Outdoor World is going where the Walmart is in Abingdon.
Denise Adkins July 11, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I agree with 100% Brett. Coming home from work on 924 around 4 o'clock and on is a disaster. I can't imagine anymore traffic on that road and 24 isn't any better. I also agree with the crime rate factor. Bel Air has done well keeping it down and we don't need a Walmart to bring it in.

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