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2 Stabbed At Dark Horse Saloon Saturday

A Bel Air bar was the scene of a fight that ended with two people being stabbed.

Two people were stabbed during a fight at Dark Horse Saloon in Bel Air Saturday night.

The fight started inside the tavern, located at 119 S. Main Street, shortly after 11:30 p.m according to a release from the Bel Air Police Department.

Two people were stabbed in the scuffle that spilled out onto the parking lot, the release states.

One victim was stabbed in the neck and chest. A second person suffered wounds to the back.

Three Bel Air Volunteer Fire Company medic units responded to the scene to treat the victims, said Rich Gardiner, spokesman for Harford County Volunteer Fire and EMS Association.

The victims were treated at Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center, according to Bel Air Police.

Police do not have a suspect in the case. Investigators will review surveillance video from the bar.

Police are asking anyone who witnessed the fight or has information to contact Det. Mark Zulauf or Det. Sgt. Jim Lockard by phone at 410-638-4500 or by email, crimetips@belairmd.org.

Sarah December 05, 2012 at 02:49 PM
LOL!
BigblackTony December 05, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Chicken Hawk is 100% correct
Gspurgeon December 05, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Well looneys only hires blacks and ninjas! That's why nothing ever breaks out there! Oh and a dwarf!
Luke December 05, 2012 at 02:59 PM
Chicken hawk for Vice President
Luke December 05, 2012 at 03:08 PM
I heard Bob the guy who hates "blacks" on this thread pays migrant workers to choke him while he masturbates in the shower dressed up like Madonna, anyone else hear that?
BigblackTony December 05, 2012 at 03:12 PM
I heard lady gaga...but yes ur correct luke
Luke December 05, 2012 at 03:15 PM
Madonna, lady gaga and grimace I think but hey no big deal his views on race and this town is obviously sound and a good way to think in general lol
BigblackTony December 05, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Haha
BigblackTony December 05, 2012 at 03:18 PM
Haha
Bill December 05, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Well I forgot to mention that Dark Horse has the younger trashy crowd. Looney's usually sports the older crowd. However, Looney's runs their security, music, and service much better than Dark Horse.
Karl Schuub December 05, 2012 at 05:16 PM
Some of what you say is true and some isn't. Of course it's important that businesses downtown receive support. However to suggest that a raukus, after dark crowd somehow brings business to the flower shop next door is complete bulldookey - just the opposite in that if the reputation of the downtown is one that only benefits Dark Horse the flower shop won't get any business because you're establishment has basically driven everyone else away. Don't tell me all the other businesses support the bars with no caveat - I'm sure they support the bars that police thier own activities and manage to control their patrons. Everyone wants folks to have a good time, but if this bar is at the heart to a series of ongoing issues involving the police then they need to go. As far as your suggestion that I don't understand how the liquor board operates or the law; I'm not sure that even matters here. The laws can be researched by anyone on the web - I could link you the obligations of those holding a liquor license if you like.
BAlife December 05, 2012 at 06:03 PM
KARL, I would like to know who you think you are that you have the right to judge everyone and everything you read. You have something to say on every article written here. You have the most assine and bs that comes out of your mouth, then anyone ever. You have no concept of reality or what happens in real life. You are so quick to judge on here, that this bar and staff is responsible for this incident. When it is the farthest from the truth. The staff acted appropiately and timely, in cooperation with the police. Were you there ? Did you witness the incident. NO you did not. You should keep your small minded opinions to yourself. Especially when you have no idea what you are talking about.
Karl Schuub December 05, 2012 at 06:36 PM
BAlife - folks don't end up getting stabbed unless a fight started and the fight didn't start in a vacuum. As described by a witness that posted here one of the patrons involved in the fight and the victim who was stabbed multiple times was sloppy drunk. If someone arrived at your bar sloppy drunk you don't let him in and if someone became sloppy drunk at your bar then DH is responsible. End of story.
BAlife December 05, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Did you see the person sloppy drunk ??? Again were you there??? Does any report say the victim was sloppy drunk... NO. You are making assumptions and forming your opinion on one persons account.. which may or may not be true. In this case it is not true. Did DH let someone sloppy drunk in there bar or over serve them... you DO NOT know the anwser to that because again you were not there and you did not witness. The bar is not responsible for people's behavior. Did you happen to read the real article on Baltimore Sun. Where the police commend Dark Horse for doing a good job that night... Stop hiding behind a computer and judging other people.
Karl Schuub December 05, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Say what you will but I'm bettn' you the bar owner has already been told the place is on a short leash.
BAlife December 05, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Guess time will tell. But I can assure you, you are wrong. And I wouldn't be placing any bets if I were you.
TellsTheTruth December 06, 2012 at 02:14 AM
Couldn't agree more Bob...I've seen plenty of FIST fights in the bars up here. But evertime there's a weapon involved guess what color the suspect is.....BLACK. That's their culture...the only way they know.
anonymous December 07, 2012 at 04:05 PM
I dont think people just go aroung stabbing others for no reason, were you there???.... how do you know that it wasnt self defense and maybe the person doing the stabbing was trying to save his own life.
PcTech December 07, 2012 at 07:41 PM
Talk to Sargent Thomas about the noise.
Thezz December 09, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Dark Horse on Wednesday nights is sooooo much fun...they have comedy.... its hard to fight when you're laughing your ass off. DJ Grode plays hip hop on at Looneys... black & white people dance the way MLK Jr would've wanted. Even the el salvadorians enjoy it. P.s. Darkhorse has comedy 2 wednesdays a month
Thezz December 09, 2012 at 03:15 PM
"The bouncers at Looneys compliment each other on their calf muscles" which leads to less violence"~ 2Chainz
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 03:16 AM
if you live on or near main street, take some accountability and deal with it. your decision to live so close to downtown
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 03:44 AM
i agree 110% and preach about personal accountability CONSTANTLY! its something our society has completely lost. however, i disagree that all the bel air bars are the same. the only incident at the tower, in recent memory, was actually in the parking garage a couple years ago, and bolans had that 1 incident earlier in the year. other than that, its pretty much just looneys and horse
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 05:16 AM
Well i've spent about 45 minutes of my life reading through all of these comments, some provide some pretty decent insight into the minds of you narrow minded goofballs, but others actually lead me to believe there is some hope for society after all. people like karl who preach about placing the blame where "blame is due" forget to consider parenting issues and environmental issues surrounding these "riff-raffs"... factors like these can greatly affect behavior problems, specifically ego-based or violence-based. The psychological details go pretty deep. Sure, its easy to place the blame on something you can physically sense, like the bouncers or music, but most people do not consider personal accountability, which in my opinion leads to many of today's society problems. The way someone was raised and the morals they were never taught are directly related to 99% of crimes committed. You karl's say music volume and "over serving" are completely to blame for the influx in "riff-raff" in Bel Air? Take for a second to consider the downward spiral in accountability in our society, lack of discipline in today's families because "hitting your kids" is suddenly a crime, and groups sparking up such as the NAACP who think they're combating racism, or Title X in college sports which was created to enforce gender equity... in reality are only creating MASSIVE separation among races and people! Combine this with our exponentially expanding population, .....(continued next comment)....
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 05:20 AM
Bel Air's inept police force who have nothing better to do than hang out at wawa and give people DUI's, and a society that is obsessed with placing the blame on things they know little about! I did the math, and I sense a pretty huge problem. The karl's out there want to do away with alcohol and think bars do nothing to contribute to society or the economy. Alcohol consumption is not only completely legal, it is a human right. Take alcohol away and you have another horrendous prohibition period full of gang violence. Take alcohol out of restaurants and you take away the majority of their income (food costs would skyrocket retail prices and put many out of business). The real crime here is the government taxing alcohol so high, it puts a massive strain on smaller bars and restaurants, in turn creating a monopoly-like avenue for big-wig fat cats who almost always have government ties in one way or another to open their own places and avoid many of the issues that a smaller establishment would face by having said connections. Joe Schmoe who cares greatly about his community and wants to provide a fine eating/drinking establishment could typically never afford to do so, which opens the door only to money money money, and people who want more money money money!
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 05:20 AM
Furthermore, all you Karl's out there, I personally know MANY downtown merchants who frankly do not care what goes on at night in the bars because it DOES NOT affect their businesses. The bars (which are also restaurants, do not forget), draw the attention to Main Street, creating traffic on the streets, and many eyes looking in their windows. You think someone is going to go through the hassle of traffic and parking and walking to visit a downtown flower shop?!? how do you think many of the merchants in downtown get discovered in the first place? Its because of hot spots like dark horse and looneys and the tower. for you specifically "Karl," I suggest you become a real part of the community and learn the facts about downtown businesses before you place any further comments. Business owners downtown love the bars and restaurants, and history has told us that incidents like this will not cause a disruption in the economy... THAT is a fact.
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 05:20 AM
As far as the "fountain jumper" is concerened, this was a completely isolated incident that had absolutely nothing to do with the bars, and there in fact was NOT a "large crowd" gathered around (it is documented on video if you want proof of that). ...also regarding this.... who the hell cares? Did it affect anyone personally? Did it create a hole in your life that you cannot recover from? It actually brought some much needed attention to the town, did no harm, and did not affect anyone or anything negatively. This isnt the first time something "risky" has happened in the world. hell, I'd be willing to pay to see something like this again... but that would involve Bel air getting their heads out of their asses and organize some ACTUAL interactive things to do around town, aside from the riboff (also heavily focused on alcohol), farm fair, and lame "first fridays" (also heavily focused on alcohol).... maybe then the focus would not be so heavy on our 5 downtown bars.
bobbo1 December 10, 2012 at 05:20 AM
Here is the reality of this whole thing: there are literally THOUSANDS of patrons who walk in and out of bel air bars EVERY week. After a few months, you dont think that SOMEONE in our little safe community is going to slip and get into a drunken bar fight? Do you think people dont pregame at home or in the parking lot? Do you realize how hard it is at times to recognize a drunk man over a sober man in a dimly lit crowded bar? Yet, we push on and do what we can. What some of you are suggesting is that we create additional legislation (to add to the enormously uneccessary amount that we currently have) to combat these one-in-100,000 drunk idiots? The Harford County Liquor Board puts enough pressure on, and blackmails, its licensees enough.... it would be insane to encourage more laws and regulations. The current system is more than adequate, and i can tell you from experience that the security personell are doing outstanding jobs in ALL of the bel air bars. Violence is a part of human nature. Because of accountability issues in our great American society, its ALL of us who suffer. Think of it like this: can you keep ALL bugs out of your house during the summer? Of course not. But you do the best you can with what you have to work with. The same goes for the delinquints in our society. They will always be there, in one form or another.
MVPHKR December 10, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Can you translate this into English, please?
Christopher J. December 11, 2012 at 10:21 PM
sir, please stop bad mouthing my hometown. I am from Bel Air, and i am proud of it. It is wrong what you are doing here, and please stop. You are ignorant,generalizing, and straight up rude. Thank you and have a nice day.

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